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Basic Question : where did the legs go ?
by Ricardo Constantino 22 Aug '07

22 Aug '07

Good Morning, My name is Ricardo Constantino, and I have just started using Therion / Survex - so please bear with me :-) I am running survex 1.0.39, and therion 0.5.0 on Windows XP. I have a little test survey (both in svx and th files) with 9 stations. When I run the svx file directly in Survex I get a correct 3d file, which Aven displays with the 9 stations and 8 legs. However, when I run the same survey (either as a 3d import or natively in the .th file) the result displays the stations but not the interconnecting legs - even the survex log generated from the therion compilation reads that there are 9 stations but 0 legs ! Even a simple 2, 3 station survey directly in Therion, generates the pdf plan view, but only the stations are marked in the file (there are no lines interconnecting the stations). What am I missing here ? Thanks in advance, Ricardo (www.ENTRADA.tv) BTW : the concepts behind both these applications are great - I just hope I will have a chance to try all the powerfull features ! Thanks guys.

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Syntax for vertical passages
by Vilius A 04 Aug '07

04 Aug '07

Hello fellows, I've faced a problem when I started to use therion for the surveys we do. The matter is that when we survey a vertical passage (a well) we are used to take such sets of measurements: shot from-to, length(vertical) and 3-5 combinations of azimuth and distance. Ex. 1-2 5m. (210' - 1,2m)(0' - 4m)(75' - 3m)(160' - 0m) 210' stands for 210 degrees etc. And I cannot find out how using syntax of therion to note these measurements. Or should I change the way I do notes. Thanks for any ideas and advises. Vilius A. Speleoclub "Ænigma" www.speleo.lt

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extended maps
by Gilbert Fernandes (mailinglist) 28 Jul '07

28 Jul '07

Hello, May I ask for a new feature ? On extend maps, can you add to the join section the break command. On plan maps, we can specifie for different scraps the upper and lower putting “break” between the join commands. It’s refused for extended maps. This will allow to see easily if a gallery is behind or bellow an other. May be it’s not too difficulte for you ? The best thing will be to be able to position manually an extended scrap on the map (relatively to an other), as we can do it for none scraps. So we could avoid this problems. Thanks. Gilbert

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survey points on scrap extended
by Gilbert Fernandes (mailinglist) 20 Jul '07

20 Jul '07

Hello, I’m doing extended scraps and I notice a strange thing. When you do a “plan” scrap, if you had survey points, automatically the point number is increase each time you click in the scrap (for each survey point added). It work find. Great ! (pt1@survey, pt2@survey, pt3@survey ….) But on “extended” scrap, the phenomenon is reverse, instead of increasing the number: it decrease! (pt5@survey, pt4@survey, pt3@survey). It’s a bit surprising the first time, and you must begin from last survey points if you want to use the functionality. It would be find to have the same hay of increase for extended as for plan. Thanks, Gilbert

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[Fwd: mail therion]
by Gilbert Fernandes (mailinglist) 12 Jul '07

12 Jul '07

Hello, I have a problem with the « extend » command (survey file/centerline) for extended survey. On the scrap pinee6a1_cd.th2, I do the drawing from left to right, and I use this drawing to do my th2 file. But for the elevation survey, I would like to have it from right to left (so a mirror right-left for the drawing. If I use the command “exended reverse” on my survey file (pinee6.th, first centreline bloc), the drawing is reverse up-down : my survey have a rotation of 180° instead of a mirror reverse right-left. Do you have the probleme ? what should I do ? And in the 3D model (lox file), il size of the galerie seems strange. As if the size (up/down) is count twice. Look for the pinee6b.th2. The final room (at the top) seems to be mirrored (the floor is bad). Thanks, Gilbert PS : This command works on the pinee6b_cd.th2 file but, with the same rotation effect if we comment the line on the pinee6.th file. Try it. If you want more exemples (sources) I can send them to you

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Auto: Re: [Fwd: mail therion]
by jinoli＠centrum.cz 12 Jul '07

12 Jul '07

Od 13. do 20.7. 2005 máme celofiremní dovolenou a nem?eme vám proto slouit. Ozveme se Vam ihned, jakmile to bude moné. D?kujeme za pochopení. S p?áním ZÁ?E SV?TLA Ing. Ji?í Novotný - JINOLI

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installation probleme on Windows
by Gilbert Fernandes (mailinglist) 12 Jun '07

12 Jun '07

Hello, I'm a french caver and I'm beggining to work with therion. To help the community I'm still working on the translation in french of the english doc (I have a little free time this week, but not for a long time. I have a problem, I would like to install Therion on my computer, but with the Windows install program you must be administrator of you computer. It's not the case (at the office), so I cannot install it. Can you deliver an install kit wich can be run on single user priviledges, as for fire-fox (you cans install it on you "my documents" directory, with low priviledges). Do you have a quick solution to solve my problem ? Thank you, Gilbert

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continuation
by marco corvi 01 Jun '07

01 Jun '07

it would be nice to have something like the continuation list for other summaries, eg. rigging list, for one if the configuration includes both extended and plan and a continuation point appears in both of them it is listed twice i prefer borders in the html table [this is a very personal opinion] marco

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Elevation
by thierrygonon 17 May '07

17 May '07

Hi everyone, I have just a quick question : on a survey, I have some measures between stations that are perpendicular to the main axis, so I don't want them to appear on the extended elevation... Can I precise it, with an argument such as "extended no" or do I have to use the elevation tool ?? Thank you very much for your answers ! Thierry

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loch with 2 surfaces
by marco corvi 07 May '07

07 May '07

hi all, i tried to create a model with two "surfaces": --------------------------------------------------- source all.th source surface cs UTM32 input surface1.dem endsurface surface cs UTM32 input surface2.dem endsurface endsource export model -fmt loch -o cave.lox export model -fmt dxf -o cave.dxf ------------------------------------------------------ in dxf i got both surfaces, in loch only the first. any reason why ? thanks, marco

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