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Wall visibility affecting lox model
by Footleg 15 May '12

15 May '12

A curious thing I just discovered. One of my scraps was not showing the walls properly in the lox model. The cause was one wall line being set to invisible using the syntax: line wall:invisible If I changed this to: line wall -visibility off Now the lox model looks fine. I would have expected both these ways of hiding a wall line in the PDF would be processed the same way (both look the same in the PDF). But clearly something different is happening in the lox model. Footleg

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elevations on bearings
by John Stevens 14 May '12

14 May '12

I have produced a section on a bearing using export map -proj [elevation 075 deg] abc.xvi Using this I have created sections across a cave showing passages at different levels along a sectional line. These sections are scraps es1 es2 es3 and create a map map es es1 es2 es3 endmap export map -proj [elevation 075 deg] abc.pdf export map -proj elevation abcd.pdf But when this map is selected and a pdf is created, all is produces is a pdf version of the xvi file (abc.pdf,)(but not drawn sections just the centrelines/splays) or an extended section but not on the bearing abcd.pdf. (ie the sections are produced but not in the correct places) I have tried changing the scrap projection settings to no avail. Any ideas

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Join seeks out walls or outlines?
by Bruce 14 May '12

14 May '12

Further to our conversations on the special properties of walls. Just to clarify my understanding of what it is that makes them different to other lines; 1. by default have -outline out set, and so define the boundaries of a scrap 2. by default have -clip on set, and so some symbols are clipped at the wall 3. have their own special subtypes, and altitude labelling, that are not available to other lines 4. are used by the scrap join algorithm to decide which lines to join I'd like to check that last one, which is as described in the Therion Book pg 30. However, is it really the wall line-type that the join scrap1 scrap2 7 statement uses to decide how to join the 7 passages that connect scrap 1 with scrap 2. Or is it the -outline in/out property of the lines that the join statement reacts to? (as could almost implied from outline definition pg 28 of Therion Book) This has implications if one joins scraps rather a lot. Bruce

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wall + loch
by Marco Corvi 13 May '12

13 May '12

played with footleg example, stripped down even further. looks like the issue has something to do with pit outline in touching the wall (no outline spec). might be a bug with loch or lox export. must leave this to stacho&martin. marco

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context not working
by Bruce 12 May '12

12 May '12

I have been trying to use the context option using the example from the therion book (and a variation on it). point label -text "05 May 2012" -context point air-draught -scale xs point date -value 2012.05.05 -context point air-draught -scale xs Both these statements result in an error like this. error -- IG-InceptionPlan.th2 [383] -- object context not allowed -- point air-draught I presume this is a bug? Or is it not implemented like this? Also, with point date, can we control the format of the output, or are we limited to dd mm yyyy? (or perhaps it is looking at my system settings?) Bruce

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point dig
by Vasily Vl. Suhachev 10 May '12

10 May '12

Hello What is "point dig" symbol mean? Possibility of dig new passage? -- WBR, Vasily

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Re: [Therion] point dig
by Giorgio Pannuzzo 10 May '12

10 May '12

or, possibly, this passage was opened after digging... Giorgio --------- Original Message -------- Da: List for Therion users <therion(a)speleo.sk> To: List for Therion users <therion(a)speleo.sk> Oggetto: Re: [Therion] point dig Data: 10/05/12 10:58 -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Conto Corrente Arancio. Carta di credito e prelievi gratis. Scopri i vantaggi! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=12248&d=20120510 -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Conto Corrente Arancio. Carta di credito e prelievi gratis. Scopri i vantaggi! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=12248&d=10-5

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Re: [Therion] point dig
by Giorgio Pannuzzo 10 May '12

10 May '12

or, possibly, this passage was opened after digging... Giorgio --------- Original Message -------- Da: List for Therion users <therion(a)speleo.sk> To: List for Therion users <therion(a)speleo.sk> Oggetto: Re: [Therion] point dig Data: 10/05/12 10:58 -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Apri subito Conto Corrente Arancio. Carta Visa Gratis e nessun Canone! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=12247&d=20120510 -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Apri subito Conto Corrente Arancio. Carta Visa Gratis e nessun Canone! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=12246&d=10-5

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Re: [Therion] point dig
by Giorgio Pannuzzo 10 May '12

10 May '12

or, possibly, this passage was opened after digging... Giorgio --------- Original Message -------- Da: List for Therion users <therion(a)speleo.sk> To: List for Therion users <therion(a)speleo.sk> Oggetto: Re: [Therion] point dig Data: 10/05/12 10:58 -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Centinaia di Idee Regalo a partire da 1 euro! Su MisterCupido.com alta qualita' a prezzi imbattibili... e spedizioni in 2/3 giorni! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11452&d=20120510 -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Apri subito Conto Corrente Arancio. Carta Visa Gratis e nessun Canone! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=12247&d=10-5

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Showing a lower scrap down a pit in an overlying scrap
by Footleg 09 May '12

09 May '12

I've been experimenting to try to draw some more complex features in Therion. One of these is where a passage contains a pit with a second scrap going off at the bottom of the pit. There is an example of this in the Therion By Examples pages on the wiki. http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php?id=tbe:wiki3 In that example the lower scrap in included in a separate map, and that map is then included in the upper map using the preview command: map map5 -proj plan scrap1@s1 break scrap2@s2 preview above map22 endmap What is the purpose of using two maps here? I appear to be able to do this with a single map containing the two scraps. My second question is whether it is possible to show the pit as a hole so that the colour of the lower scrap shows in the bottom of the pit when I colour by altitude. Currently my pit is coloured the colour of the upper scrap and the colour at the bottom of the pit shows through the transparent upper scrap. But as there is no floor in the upper scrap at this point, I want to have no colour shading in the upper scrap so it is clear that the bottom of the pit is at the level of the lower passage. See the attached bitmap showing an example of what I mean (not drawn with Therion). The green lower passage is clearly shown at the bottom of the pit where the pit floor is coloured green. Can I do this in Therion? Footleg

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