- Therion - speleo.sk

Zoom levels
by Erin Lynch 09 Jun '12

09 Jun '12

I am new to Therion, and am finding it awkward to trace using a tracpad while at a zoom of 400% Would it be possible to add 800% and 1600% zoom options? Cheers, Erin

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wall option size
by Bruce 07 Jun '12

07 Jun '12

Should we be able to use the options 'size', 'l-size', 'r-size' with wall linetypes? It seems it is not allowed, but I was hoping to be able to invoke a reduced symbol size for a small narrow pit entrance. Perhaps I have misinterpreted the authors intention for this option? .therion.exe: error -- aePit-BiclopsPlan.th2 [14] -- r-size not valid with type wall Thanks Bruce

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station-name survey-level
by Bruce 07 Jun '12

07 Jun '12

I notice that 'survey-level' statements work for 'debug' station-names but do not have any effect for 'point station-name' labels. Is this intended behaviour? Would it be possible for point station-names to label stations according to the survey-level statement if no -text string is provided? Bruce

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cave-list depth includes surface survey legs
by Bruce 05 Jun '12

05 Jun '12

Hi I've just assembled a set of surveys that include a number of small caves that are interconnected by surface survey legs. The surface surveys continue out of one cave and to the entrance of the next. I have ensured that each survey only includes centrelines from one cave, but often they contain surface surveys as well. A survey-list looks like this. Title Length Depth Explored Approx. Duplicate Surface Shots Stations Kids <javascript:xTree('Kids')> Cave 49 14 0 0 0 22 140 141 ad-Kids Tunnel 49 14 0 0 0 22 140 141 A cave-list looks like this. Title Length Depth Explored Altitude Kids Cave 49 14 59.6 Now the cave is 27m long and the depth is 3m, but the cave-list does not reflect this. The survey-list includes the length and depth of the whole survey regardless of whether it is underground or not. That seems reasonable to me. The cave-list appears to do the same. Should it not present the length and elevation range of only the underground shots? Regards Bruce

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How to extract the length of each centerline ?
by Xavier Robert 05 Jun '12

05 Jun '12

Hi all, I am still working on the survey of the Jean-Bernard system in the French Alps. I have a bunch of different centerlines series, and I need to extract the length of each centerline to link them to the history of the exploration/surveying. I understood how to export the SQL database of the cave system, however, as I do not know at all how to deal with SQL databases, I wondering if there is there an easy way to extract this information with a command similar to "export survey-list" ? The best will be an output like "centerline_ID - Station_first - Station_last - Centerline_length - Topo_date" ! Cheers, Xavier

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lat-long coordinate system not supported for output in export cave-list
by Xavier Pennec 29 May '12

29 May '12

In the version 5.3.9 of therion, I get the following error: \Program Files (x86)\Therion\therion.exe: error -- HierleGeneral_thconfig.th [127] -- lat-long coordinate system not supported for output when I try to export entrance coordinates in lat-long format: cs lat-long export cave-list -o Topos/Coordonnees.html -location on Is there any reason why this should not work? That would be really usefull to point the coordinates of the entrances in google earth as they are not exported in kml files. It seems to me that it was working in previous version. Xavier -- > ------------------------- > Xavier Pennec > Senior Research Scientist / Directeur de recherche > Asclepios project-team, INRIA Sophia-Antipolis > 2004 Route des Lucioles, BP93 > F-06902 Sophia-Antipolis Cedex, France > +33 4 92 38 76 64 > +33 6 78 35 16 90 >http://www-sop.inria.fr/asclepios/ > -------------------------------

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inkscape -> th2
by Sluka Martin 25 May '12

25 May '12

There is attached "cookbook" for conversion of Inkscape files (SVG, Illustrator, PDF, ...) to th2 file of therion in this mail. Please, send me message if you find there any mistake or better way how to do it. Thanks Martin s.

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Vertical issue
by cawa sorix 23 May '12

23 May '12

Hi all, This is my first message on this list. I try to user therion with the linux version. I can generate a topo and a 3d model now with wiki help. But I have an issue with vertical and I don't find anything on the wiki or the mailing list archive to solve it. I try to realise a topo with vertical and on all vertical I have a figure there are nothing to do here. I will try to explain my trouble: If I put -90° or +90° I have a new rectangle on the result if I try with -89° the rectangle disappear. With -90° see the result at this address http://i.imgur.com/AinzN.png survey main -title "Test cave" survey first centreline data normal from to length compass clino left right up down P0 0 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.60 0.30 0.00 1.00 0 1 10.50 70.00 -66.00 1.00 0.50 1.00 3.50 1 2 7.50 70.00 -90.00 0.30 1.00 3.00 0.00 2 3 1.15 70.00 0.00 0.30 1.10 0.00 0.50 3 4 2.30 70.00 -34.00 0.00 1.50 1.50 1.25 4 5 1.00 70.00 -90.00 0.30 1.30 6.25 0.00 5 6 2.90 70.00 -1.00 0.60 1.00 1.00 2.00 endcentreline endsurvey endsurvey The same with -89° data normal from to length compass clino left right up down P0 0 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.60 0.30 0.00 1.00 0 1 10.50 70.00 -66.00 1.00 0.50 1.00 3.50 1 2 7.50 70.00 -89.00 0.30 1.00 3.00 0.00 2 3 1.15 70.00 0.00 0.30 1.10 0.00 0.50 3 4 2.30 70.00 -34.00 0.00 1.50 1.50 1.25 4 5 1.00 70.00 -89.00 0.30 1.30 6.25 0.00 5 6 2.90 70.00 -1.00 0.60 1.00 1.00 2.00 endcentreline endsurvey endsurvey I don't know if it is clear or not, I'm sorry for my english. Do you have any idear on what is wrong or what I don't undestand ? Regards, Laurent

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bug?
by Vasily Vl. Suhachev 20 May '12

20 May '12

Hello If I had a directory "surface" and file "surface.th" in same place Then "source surface" in thconfig cause an error: therion: error -- surface [1] -- line too long -- WBR, Vasily

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vthreshold
by Andrew Atkinson 20 May '12

20 May '12

Hello Just been play with a feature I have not used before. First It would be clearer if on p20 of the thbook the paragraph under vthreshold If passages are _more_or_less_ vertical (inclination > vthreshold), even UD becomes perpendicular to the shot – otherwise passages would not look very good. The 'more or less' is very confusing It would read better if it read If passages are _about_ vertical (inclination > vthreshold), even UD becomes perpendicular to the shot – otherwise passages would not look very good. Also In some passages NSEW is not not always the best way to measure passages, rifts on the like. So for some I have dimensions measured as NW SE NE SW, possible allowing an ofset for vthreshold would be a way of solving this. eg vthreshold-offset 45 degree Just a thought for the future. thanks Andrew

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