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Labyrinth GUI
by Juan Corrin 13 Mar '12

13 Mar '12

Any news about the proposed Labyrinth GUI? Having just been one of 7 expertly inducted into the pleasures of Therion by Andrew Atkinson over the weekend, it became obvious early in the course that a GUI is essential. Drop down boxes to choose parameters would be greatly appreciated. I'd certainly offer to be a beta tester.

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infer plumbs
by Vasily Vl. Suhachev 08 Mar '12

08 Mar '12

Hello "infer plumbs on" not affected to vertical shot correction with loop closure Example: ==== source survey test centerline infer plumbs on 1 2 10 0 0 2 3 10 - down 3 4 10 0 0 4 5 20 150 0 5 6 10 - up equate 1 6 endcenterline endsurvey endsource export model ==== -- WBR, Vasily

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drawing map over xvi: best practices requested
by Vasily Vl. Suhachev 08 Mar '12

08 Mar '12

Hello Possible two workflow for drawing map over xvi: First: 1) integrate new centerline in whole cave (loops closed) 2) process whole cave and export xvi 3) draw over xvi 2) process map Second: 1) process only new centerline and export xvi (no loops) 2) draw over xvi 3) integrate new centerline in whole cave (loops closed) 4) process map Pros/Contras for each approach? Maybe possible another right way? -- WBR, Vasily

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Meaning of cavelength
by Maximillian Dornseif 04 Mar '12

04 Mar '12

I might understand something wrong, but it seems to me, that what is called `cavelength` in Therion is actually the length of all centerlines. This might correspondent to the cave length in straight caves but certainly not in labyrinth like caves. I was told about the "Kluterthöhle" in germany which was surveyed in the 60ies to ca. 5900 m and then resurveyed and recalculated - to have only a length of 5200 m or so. This is for on the one hand a problem with circular shots inside big rooms, like http://filez.foxel.org/3s3H0d2X361A0K222Z3N An other problem are crossroads like http://filez.foxel.org/1t0C0r2Q011i0g1L0i00 where you can't young the shared area of two passages twice but must - at least to what I have been thought - deduct some part of the centerlines: in the following picture I have marked the parts being considered cavelength yellow and the centerlines not counting as part of the cavelength red https://img.skitch.com/20120221-jhraj625isy8j1i9naxiki3b76.png Certainly I'm not the first person stumbling about this. What is the preferred way to approach the calculation of cave lengths? Regards Maximillian

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team / instrumet bug? MINOR
by Bruce 04 Mar '12

04 Mar '12

This works. team "Nic Barth" station team "Bruce Mutton" dog instrument station "Nics Garmin Etrex GPS" If 'station' is replaced with 'instruments', it also works fine. However this crashes on the first line. team "Nic Barth" position team "Bruce Mutton" dog instrument position "Nics Garmin Etrex GPS" with the error D:\Program Files\Therion\therion.exe: error -- ArthurNorthAreaINDEX.th [674] -- unknown team role - position Therion Book p18 suggests it should work OK

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map title
by Vasily Vl. Suhachev 02 Mar '12

02 Mar '12

Hello Map title from "map my_map -title" is not displayed in pdf output without explicit use of "select my_map". It confusing -- WBR, Vasily

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kml file name field request
by Bruce 29 Feb '12

29 Feb '12

I'm assuming there is a bug fix coming along for kml files to remove the extra whitespace that is upsetting the coordinates in Google Earth these days The kml files start out like this. <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <kml xmlns="http://earth.google.com/kml/2.0"> <Document> <name>Therion KML export </name> <description>Therion KML export.</description> <Placemark> . I'd like to request that the <name> and <description> fields be modified as follows; For export map, <name> = cavename (from code tex-map), or 'Cave Map' if cavename is undefined. <description> = mapcomment, or perhaps 'Therion map compiled <date>' if there is no mapcomment. I'm not sure if layouts are used for kml map exports, so not sure if it is possible, but this would allow them to match their pdf etc counterparts. Using layouts and code tex-map would allow user defined modifications. For export model, <name> = unique survey name or 'Cave Survey Centreline' if there is no unique survey name. <description> = 'Therion survey compiled <date>' or a better description if someone can think of one. Regards Bruce

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Orientation of symbol fills
by Footleg 28 Feb '12

28 Feb '12

Can someone please tell me how to change the orientation that an area fill symbol is drawn using? I am trying to make my flowstone fill indicate the direction it flows in. I've searched the wiki, email group archive and thbook for an answer to this with no luck. Just some reference to rotating fills being possible without saying how in an email from the list in 2007. Footleg

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Infinite loop in therion 5.3.9
by Bertrand HAUSER 27 Feb '12

27 Feb '12

Hi, I have an infinite loop with Therion 5.3.9 on Ubuntu. I have to kill the processus to stop it. When I look to the Therion tmp working directory, there is a big file (some Go if I don't stop fastly) witch name is : th_pagedef.tex The begining of this file is in attachment. The infinite loop repeat this ending line : \PL{q}\PL{1.00 0.03 -0.03 1.00 -nan -inf cm}\PB{0}{0}{\THWgrida}\PL{Q}% I don't understand tex language... In attachment, the zip file with the file I compile. Sorry for my english, Bertrand

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filename/path encoding
by Vasily Vl. Suhachev 27 Feb '12

27 Feb '12

Hello === encoding utf-8 input <cyrillic_string> === Therion try to open file with name in raw encoding. It is not work on Windows. -- WBR, Vasily

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