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Map
by Markus Boldt 27 Apr '11

27 Apr '11

Hi, probably it is a very simple question. But I do not get it out. How is it possible to get a plan projection AND a elevation projection (180°) on one map. I have a simple cave with 4 very small scraps with plan projection and one scrap with elevation projection. I have found no example in the wiki, but may be a havn`t searched enough. Regards Markus

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Therion has been translated into Bulgarian
by Александър Янев 18 Apr '11

18 Apr '11

Hi, I and my frend Ivo Tachev make translation of Therion program into Bulgarian, but I could not compile it to fix errors that appear in actual work with the program. I tried compiling under Ubuntu, but out errors that I could not fix. However, my programming is too badly. If any of you would like, please do. deb package or installer for Windows, include the translation in Bulgarian, which can be found in attachments. Thanks Alexander Yanev

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strange scrap plotting
by Will Urbanski 12 Apr '11

12 Apr '11

Hello, I have been drafting a map using therion but my export is generating a very strange PDF. All my data (line plot) plots correctly in the map, but my scraps are all tiling on a specific station. For instance, say I have stations A1, A2, A3, and A4 labeled in a scrap. For some reason Therion is plotting all the station & additional points (A2,A3,A4,stalagmites, etc) exactly at the same location as A1. My scraps also contain walls but the walls don't plot. I have a friend who is very talented with Therion and he has looked at my project and is not sure why it is not working correctly, thus I am not sure if this is a bug or something that I have screwed up. My entire project is attached to this email (thconfig in /config/, A1 is in the lower left-hand corner of map). Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated. best regards, will

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UTM 30 N
by Graham Mullan 08 Apr '11

08 Apr '11

For Spain, try using EPSG 23030 for your cs see http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/23030/ Graham -- graham.mullan(a)coly.org.uk 0117 9502556 or 07887 637064 (or 0844 2327803) On 26/03/2011 11:00, therion-request(a)speleo.sk wrote: > Send Therion mailing list submissions to > therion(a)speleo.sk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > therion-request(a)speleo.sk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > therion-owner(a)speleo.sk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Therion digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Support for UTM European 1979 Datum (Footleg) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:13:54 +0000 > From: Footleg<drfootleg(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Therion] Support for UTM European 1979 Datum > To: List for Therion users<therion(a)speleo.sk> > Message-ID: > <AANLkTinKkQdQt5dgdGcma_9ratem5n%2BWHMxn9Yw2WwOH(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I'm making good progress now on learning how to generate various output from > Therion, and have started on generating KML plan maps for google earth. My > problem is that my survey data is coming from survex .3d files which I am > importing. I am working with data for many hundreds of caves, and they are > all fixed using UTM with the European 1979 Datum because that is the > coordinate system of the expedition area maps we have had for the past few > decades. As far as I can tell, this datum is not included in Therion at the > moment. I've checked the epsg file in the source. I specifically need the > UTM30N zone as all our caves using this coordinate system are in that zone. > Is this something which can be added please? > > Footleg >

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map bug
by marco corvi 07 Apr '11

07 Apr '11

i'm composing the map of a new cave, and got that a shifted map, may have the outline cropped out in the final pdf. see attached sample. ( a quick fix is really appreciated ! ) marco

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Support for UTM European 1979 Datum
by Footleg 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

I'm making good progress now on learning how to generate various output from Therion, and have started on generating KML plan maps for google earth. My problem is that my survey data is coming from survex .3d files which I am importing. I am working with data for many hundreds of caves, and they are all fixed using UTM with the European 1979 Datum because that is the coordinate system of the expedition area maps we have had for the past few decades. As far as I can tell, this datum is not included in Therion at the moment. I've checked the epsg file in the source. I specifically need the UTM30N zone as all our caves using this coordinate system are in that zone. Is this something which can be added please? Footleg

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data style problem
by Andrew Atkinson 24 Mar '11

24 Mar '11

The Therion book p20 has this data <style> <readings order> ◃ set data style (normal, topofil, diving, cartesian, cylpolar, dimensions, nosurvey) and readings order. Reading is one of the following keywords: station, from, to, tape/length, [back]compass/[back]bearing, [back]clino/ [back]gradient, depth, fromdepth, todepth, depthchange, counter, fromcount, tocount, northing, easting, altitude, up/ceiling4, down/floor, left, right, ignore, ignoreall. See Survex manual for details. So trying this (from the survex manual v1.0.39) data nosurvey from to 1 3 As found in the 2 sample files (the actual connection would require a large dataset to be sent) The survex one produces a triangle, as I would expect the therion file gives the error unsurveyed shot between unfixed stations (adding a fix for station 1 and 3 gives the same error) So this is acting differently from survex, or possibly does not work at all (or I just have got it wrong again!) thanks Andrew PS expect an email on passage dimensions in centrelines, as that is really what I am working on, this was a little diversion

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Diving data, limit 8 lines for lox?
by Andrew Atkinson 24 Mar '11

24 Mar '11

hi all (again) This has been puzzling me for hours For the diving data attached (now very simplified as I tried to work out what was going on) Uncommenting any consecutive lines up to 8 and the lox output works, any more than 8 and an output is produced but it does not open, the loch flashes on the screen then vanishes. one of the none working Lox file also attached. pdf and 3d files are produced from the full set of data I am on Ubuntu 10.04 therion 5.3.5 loch 5.2.8 I am now giving up for the night, it has not been a good session Andrew

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How to generate a projected elevation along a specific bearing?
by Footleg 23 Mar '11

23 Mar '11

I've tried searching the wiki and Therion book to find an answer to this, but it does not seem to feature anywhere. Not even in any examples I can find. I am trying to draw a simple cave with a 20m vertical entrance shaft, and a couple of chambers down a slope at the bottom. I've drawn an elevation scrap for one of these chambers and the shaft. But when I generate an elevation map using this scrap the shaft looks fine, but the chamber wall is a mess. So I concluded it is not projecting the elevation along the bearing I would like. The Therion book showed me I can put a bearing on the scrap type. So I tried elevation 90. Now my shaft is no longer appearing anywhere near vertical in the elevation PDF and the chamber. Can anyone help me please? Screenshot of scrap, and pdfs with default elevation map and elevation 90 settings attached. Footleg

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How to join areas
by Bill Gee 13 Mar '11

13 Mar '11

Hello everyone - Is there a way to join areas? I have a cave map with a bunch of scraps each containing a portion of the stream. I defined an area on each scrap of type "water". When the final map is compiled, the joins between the scrap walls is fine but the stream join is not. Is there a way to smooth this out? I have fiddled with the area border some and that helps, but it is never a smooth join. There is always a discontinuity from one scrap to the next. Therion 5.3.0 on Fedora 14 Regards - Bill Gee

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