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Compiling Therion on Fedora 15
by Bill Gee 01 Jun '11

01 Jun '11

Hello everyone - I just did a clean (not an upgrade) install of Fedora 15, 64-bit. Trying to compile Therion 5.3.6 and 5.3.7 produces an error in thbezier. There are warnings, too, but I think they can be ignored. Version 5.3.6 compiles on 64-bit Fedora 14 as long as I turn off the loch item in the makefile. That may also be required for 5.3.7 ... I have never been able to get loch to compile. Any ideas? Thanks - Bill Gee ==================== thdataleg.cxx: In member function ‘void thdataleg::calc_total_stds()’: thdataleg.cxx:173:53: warning: variable ‘dh’ set but not used [-Wunused-but- set-variable] c++ -c -Wall -DTHLINUX -O2 -o thobjectname.o thobjectname.cxx c++ -c -Wall -DTHLINUX -O2 -o thinfnan.o thinfnan.cxx c++ -c -Wall -DTHLINUX -O2 -o thlayout.o thlayout.cxx c++ -c -Wall -DTHLINUX -O2 -o thinit.o thinit.cxx c++ -c -Wall -DTHLINUX -O2 -o thdb1d.o thdb1d.cxx thdb1d.cxx: In member function ‘void thdb1d::print_loops()’: thdb1d.cxx:2466:19: warning: variable ‘prev_ps’ set but not used [-Wunused- but-set-variable] thdb1d.cxx:2466:30: warning: variable ‘first_ps’ set but not used [-Wunused- but-set-variable] c++ -c -Wall -DTHLINUX -O2 -o thsvxctrl.o thsvxctrl.cxx c++ -c -Wall -DTHLINUX -O2 -o thdatastation.o thdatastation.cxx c++ -c -Wall -DTHLINUX -O2 -o thobjectid.o thobjectid.cxx c++ -c -Wall -DTHLINUX -O2 -o thobjectsrc.o thobjectsrc.cxx c++ -c -Wall -DTHLINUX -O2 -o thgrade.o thgrade.cxx c++ -c -Wall -DTHLINUX -O2 -o thlibrary.o thlibrary.cxx c++ -c -Wall -DTHLINUX -O2 -o thgeomag.o thgeomag.cxx thgeomag.cxx: In function ‘double thgeomag(double, double, double, double)’: thgeomag.cxx:61:68: warning: variable ‘Z’ set but not used [-Wunused-but-set- variable] c++ -c -Wall -DTHLINUX -O2 -o thbezier.o thbezier.cxx In file included from thbezier.cxx:48:0: thbezier.h:53:3: error: ‘size_t’ does not name a type thbezier.h:66:3: error: ‘size_t’ does not name a type thbezier.cxx: In member function ‘void thbezier_curve::copy_polyline(thbezier_polyline*, double)’: thbezier.cxx:1372:25: error: ‘struct thbezier_polyline’ has no member named ‘get_length’ make: *** [thbezier.o] Error 1 ===================

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therion 5.3.7 uploaded to Debian
by Wookey 01 Jun '11

01 Jun '11

I've just uploaded therion 5.3.7 to Debian unstable. It will percolate into testing and Ubuntu in due course. As well as the general 5.3.7 changes, this includes the fix for survex 1.1 3d compatibility with dates, improved mimetype info, gcc4.5 fixes which should be included upstream and it builds with binutils gold Stacho thank you for including some of my previous patches so the delta remains quite small. Please review the new lot and include what you can. The binutils-gold more explicit library link list, and gcc4.5 fixes are definate candidates. The new svg logo is another (which could go in the 'about' box too). The mimetype database info needs testing, so do please give feedback on how that works for you. I'll upload backports for Debian squeeze and ubuntu maverick/natty too. Wookey -- Principal hats: Linaro, Emdebian, Wookware, Balloonboard, ARM http://wookware.org/

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PDF-Version
by Markus Boldt 22 May '11

22 May '11

Hi, is it possible to say Metapost witch version of PDF I want to use? Therion generates a PDF 1.5. But if I insert that PDF in a publication developed with e.g. Adobe Indesign, the spezial german characters Ä, Ö, Ü are not written in the right way. With PDF-Version 1.3 it is all right. Clearly, it is no problem to convert it with a tool, but it would be easier to get it directly from Therion. Regards Markus Boldt

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Re: [Therion] A totally unreasonable request
by Giorgio Pannuzzo 19 May '11

19 May '11

As long I know, "tiled" images can partially loaded into the memory. This is their main advantage and the reason why them are so popular as map image formats. Nothing to do with compression. Using "tiled" images even a small PDA with poor memory amount can manage very huge maps (E.G. 2 GB compressed!!). Look at OziExplorer CE SW and ECW or OZXF file formats features. Giorgio --------- Original Message -------- Da: List for Therion users <therion(a)speleo.sk> To: therion(a)speleo.sk <therion(a)speleo.sk> Oggetto: Re: [Therion] A totally unreasonable request Data: 19/05/11 15:42 > > > > Hello Giorgio, > > the problem is not the image format itself. The difficulty is, that the > image (uncompressed) must be loaded into the memory of the graphic card. > > Regards > Wolfgang > > Am 19.05.2011 11:22, schrieb Giorgio Pannuzzo: > > The real best solution seems to be the compatibility with "tiled" graphic > > formats, like ECW. > > I don't know how difficult is the needed work for programmers. > > > > Giorgio > > -- > > Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP > > autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it: http://www.email.it/f > > > > Sponsor: > > Un Giorno di Sole te lo Regaliamo Noi.Approfitta della Speciale Offerta dal > > 21/5 al 15/6, sette giorni al prezzo di sei. Club Hotel Cala Rosa Stintino - > > Sardegna > > Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11485&d=20110519 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Therion mailing list > > Therion(a)speleo.sk > > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion > > _______________________________________________ > Therion mailing list > Therion(a)speleo.sk > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion > > > -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Cesenatico, Hotel Lalla, a 30 metri dal mare dotato dei migliori comfort, con camere rinnovate, Vi aspetta per le Vostre vacanze. Scoprite le offerte Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11498&d=20110519

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Re: [Therion] A totally unreasonable request
by Giorgio Pannuzzo 19 May '11

19 May '11

The real best solution seems to be the compatibility with "tiled" graphic formats, like ECW. I don't know how difficult is the needed work for programmers. Giorgio -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Un Giorno di Sole te lo Regaliamo Noi.Approfitta della Speciale Offerta dal 21/5 al 15/6, sette giorni al prezzo di sei. Club Hotel Cala Rosa Stintino - Sardegna Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11485&d=20110519

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A totally unreasonable request
by Graham Mullan 19 May '11

19 May '11

I have produced a number of Therion models which are viewed using Loch. I have to say that I am tremendously pleased with the visualisations that they give. However, we always want something more, don't we. One of the extremely useful features is the ability to drop surface data and maps on top of the model, making it possible to check the relative positions of underground and surface features. One of the limitations of this, though, comes with the resolution of the surface image. (there is a further limitation with the resolution of the open source DTM data but there is nothing that we can do about that.) This is not much of a problem with most models but one of mine covers an area of 30 km x 30 km. That means that any jpeg that covers the whole area will not be of a suitable resolution to show detail when one zooms in on smaller parts of the area. What is needed is a 'Google Earth' type system whereby the jpegs can be 'swapped' as one zooms in. Don't tell me to generate kml files and use Google Earth, as that loses the 3d capability. I'm sure we have the computing power to deal with files of the size that this implies. I'm also sure that it'll take a deal of fancy programming to implement. If I had the skills I'd give it a go. I don't, so I can just hope that someone with the relevant skills will take the job on. What I can keep doing is working on the mapping agencies to release suitable data. I shall do that, even though I've had little luck so far. Graham -- graham.mullan(a)coly.org.uk 0117 9502556 or 07887 637064 (or 0844 2327803)

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Add Therion version and compiled date to Map and Atlas Headers
by Bruce 19 May '11

19 May '11

I'd like to add the compilation date and Therion version to map and atlas headers after the statistics/copyright and before the legends. This is probably a simple tex macro for someone to extract the information from suitable variables or the system clock for someone that knows how. Eg (c) Bilbo Baggins 2012 Compiled with Therion 5.3.8 on 2012.01.05 (optional time, bat logo from web site and http://therion.speleo.sk <http://therion.speleo.sk/> link here) Legend. Is it (easily) possible? Has someone done this already? Come to think of it all of the list outputs should include this information as well. Bruce

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Compatibility with Survex
by Graham Mullan 16 May '11

16 May '11

I made a comment recently about compatibility with the most recent version of Survex, so that I didn't need to change between versions of the latter when viewing 3d files generated with either Survex or Therion. This was to be takien on board with the next development snapshot. I see this morning that Olly has uploaded Survex 1.1.16. Aven seems smoother in use on this. Could this be borne in mind when the next Therion snapshot is produced? Many thanks Graham

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Station-names appendages removal within group endgroup block
by Bruce 13 May '11

13 May '11

With all the PocketTopo data I have been collecting it has been very convenient to use the station-names statement when adding it to my Therion dataset. Often this data connects to survey stations with different prefix/suffix's, but the station-name statement will mess up the typed in name. In the case of centrelines I can work around this by placing any such stations before the station-names statement. This does not work within scraps. I have been trying to use code like this within centrelines and within scraps station-names jh @jh # in scraps this is included in the scrap definition <refer to stations that need the prefix & suffix added> group station-names [] [] # temporarily clear the prefix & suffix <refer to stations with no, or with differing, prefix or suffix> endgroup Alas it does not seem to work, and it seems like it would be very helpful if it did. Is there a way to do this already, or could it be added. Regards Bruce

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Importing Survex files
by Graham Mullan 06 May '11

06 May '11

Owing to some features of my dataset, including, as I have flagged up before the fact that Therion is not as flexible as Survex when it comes to data entry, in that it requires a clino column even when the data has not been collected, I am still having to import some survex 3d files into my model. I also use Survex to view other people's models. This data has been compiled in Survex 1.1.15 as it includes passage dimension data. The problem is that 3d files compiled using 1.1.15 instead of 1.0.39 will not import into Therion. Is there some way that this can be dealt with so that I don't have to keep installing/uninstalling versions of Survex? Graham

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