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Drawing tiled floor
by Roger Schuster 17 Apr '14

17 Apr '14

Hello cavers, at the moment I try to draw a map of an man-made cavern. The floor of this subterranean building is tiled with more or less rectangular stone plates. These plates are approx. 50 cm wide and rectangular to the passage walls. The tiles are sometimes broken, have rounded corners, not exact the same size and other kinds of "randomness". I tried to write some metapost code to draw this kind of area fill but to no avail. Can somebody please give me a hint how to get this done? The result should look like on the attached photo. Thank you and regards, Roger

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Can't open data.log file for input
by Dave Clucas 16 Apr '14

16 Apr '14

I’m running Therion v 5.3.11 on a Mac. I’ve just reinstalled Mavericks to fix a problem and now get the following error. Anyone know what the problem is? ####################### metapost log file ######################## therion: warning -- can't open data.log file for input can't open data.log file for input#################### end of metapost log file #################### therion: error -- metapost exit code -- 32512 writing xtherion file ... done Dave Clucas dave.clucas(a)icloud.com

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New release of Cave Converter
by Footleg 13 Apr '14

13 Apr '14

A new version (20140412) of my Cave Converter tool is now available. It converts between various cave survey file formats. Enables users of DistoX devices to get their existing data into PocketTopo, and their new survey data out of PocketTopo and into Survex format. Plus enables migrating survey data from one program to another. Help and the download link can be found on the Cave Converter home page. Source code is available under a GNU GPLv3 license. http://wscc.darkgem.com/caveconverter/ A summary of the changes in this release: - Adopted JScience.org libraries for handling measurements, and implemented length measurements as unitised lengths rather than plain decimal values. - Added support for reading Compass format survey data files. - Added substitution of illegal characters in series and station names to Survex format output. Compass files allow various punctuation characters in series and station names, which are not allowed in Survex format data files. These will be substituted by an underscore character followed by a two letter code indicating the character which was substituted (e.g. '!' becomes '_ex'). - Added additional command line options: - splays/nosplays: Survex writer and Toporobot writer now have option to not output splays. - lrud: Option to generate LRUD data from splays (can be used on any conversion). - Added rounding of LRUD values to 2 decimal places in the Survex file writer. - Changed LRUD generation to better select the best splay for each dimension, and to calculate the distance for the LRUD dimensions based on the angle of the splay to the passage direction instead of using the total length of the splay. The splay selected when there is a choice is now the splay giving the biggest dimension in the direction of the LRUD measurement rather than using the splay closest to the compass bearing of the passage dimension measurement direction. Passage direction is now calculated from the average bearing of the forward leg and the previous leg arriving at the station. When more than two legs join at a station then the previous leg will be the one with the closest bearing to the bearing of the onward leg. - Splays fired as back shots are now excluded from LRUD generation. - Splays are no longer removed from the output when used to generate LRUD dimensions. - The Survex writer now groups passage data from LRUD dimensions into blocks of readings corresponding to the survey legs in the file (previously one block of passage data was output per series with all stations listed with no respect for their connectivity). - Added duplicate and surface flags to leg class, and added reading of flags to Survex parser and writing them to Survex writer. - Made the logging output less verbose, and fixed the survey summary details log output to include inner series. Bugs fixed: - Fixed case sensitivity bug in Toborobot file generation which left series unlinked if series or station names did not have identical case. - Fixed bug in PocketTopo parser which repeated the station name given to the 'to' station for a splay leg when the splays were not all located together in the survey. - Fixed bug where compass calibration was used instead of declination calibration in PocketTopo parser, Survex parser and Survex writer. - Added date reading to Survex parser. - Fixed bug in utility function to calculate the average of a set of compass bearings (thanks to Peter Kellaway for pointing me to a much more robust and elegant solution). This bug does not affect the use of the function in previous versions (where it was only used to convert PocketTopo triple leg readings into one average leg) but it did show up in the new LRUD generation code when calculating the average bearing of two legs either side of a station when the passage went round a sharp bend. - Fixed bug in Toporobot Writer which caused passage dimensions data to be output on the wrong station (LRUD values for the 'from' station of each leg were being put on the 'to' station of each leg). - PocketTopo file reader no longer reorders the splay legs for each station (something which used to happen due to the old code which sorted splays into groups for L,R,U,D measurements in this reader). Bug reports and requests to support other formats always welcomed. Enjoy! Footleg

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PDA
by Markus Boldt 11 Apr '14

11 Apr '14

Hello, has anyone a list of PDA mobiles, which are able to work PocketTopo? I have an ASUS MyPal 696 with Win mobile 6.0. On this device PocketTopo is working. On another device HP AXIM with Win CE 3.0 it is not working. Thank you Regards Markus

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Question about "\cavedepth" and Northarrow
by Torsten Schnitter 08 Apr '14

08 Apr '14

Hi all I'm wondering a bit about the results from the variable \cavedepth. May be it's not correct this way or I do have a different understanding and someone can explain to me why it is this way. I'm drawing a map (with scraps, points, walls etc) containing just a sidepassage of the entire cavesystem. Concerining the survey data I'm using "data diving ..." within centerline. The result from \cavedepth is now the maximum difference between the shallowest and deepest point of that part of the cave. E.g.: If I have surveypoints in this part of the cave from -15m to -20m the result in the header using \cavedepth is -5m. What I did expect to get from \cavedepth was the maximum depth of this part of the cave, so -20m. Because this is the relevant info to cavedivers. Is there any way to get this result without using the override from \cavedepth? I would like to use the automatic calculation of course but also want to get the maximum depth under water. 2nd question: I would like to use a northarrow as you can see in the attached file. Does anyone have some code for that? Thanks for your help. cheers, Torsten

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Denivelations..
by herich＠speleodd.sk 05 Apr '14

05 Apr '14

Hello, I just noticed, how polygonal order in centerline (surface + cave polygons) can change the denivelation of the cave. Here are examples of the same data in different order. (Maybe I am doing something wrong?) :: ______ RIGHT DENIVELATION: (42 m lenght, 6 m den.) centerline date 2014.4.4 units tape cm data normal from to compass clino tape right left up down flags not surface p4 p5 33.6 -0.4 362 [0.3 0.1] [0.3 0.1] [0.9 3] [0.8 0.5] 4 5 180.6 -0.3 270 [0.4 0.6] [0.4 1.3] [0 1.5] [0.4 0.7] 5 6 140.3 -4.9 777 0.5 0.1 0.4 0.5 6 7 224 11 43 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 7 8 144.1 1.2 1011 0 0.4 0.3 0.3 1 2 141.2 -23.1 765 [4 4.1] [2 1.7] [0.5 6] [1 0.4] 2 3 157.4 -0.9 1015 1.4 1.2 0.2 0.3 data normal from to compass clino tape flags surface p7 p8 277.4 -39.3 1769 p8 - 148 0 700 p8 p9 172.6 14.5 2075 p9 J1 65.5 -10.2 126 2S p1 172.6 21.4 2087 p1 p2 34.7 31.8 1988 p2 p3 8.9 11.1 841 p3 J4 12.2 -29.8 388 p3 p4 137.3 17.4 1635 p6 p7 272.4 -22.6 521 p7 1 167.2 -17.5 295 p4 p6 188.7 1.1 3872 p6 4 186.1 -7.5 208 endcenterline ______ WRONG DENIVELATION: (42 m lenght, 13 m den.) centerline date 2014.4.4 units tape cm data normal from to compass clino tape flags surface p7 p8 277.4 -39.3 1769 p8 - 148 0 700 p8 p9 172.6 14.5 2075 p9 J1 65.5 -10.2 126 2S p1 172.6 21.4 2087 p1 p2 34.7 31.8 1988 p2 p3 8.9 11.1 841 p3 J4 12.2 -29.8 388 p3 p4 137.3 17.4 1635 p6 p7 272.4 -22.6 521 p7 1 167.2 -17.5 295 p4 p6 188.7 1.1 3872 p6 4 186.1 -7.5 208 data normal from to compass clino tape right left up down flags not surface p4 p5 33.6 -0.4 362 [0.3 0.1] [0.3 0.1] [0.9 3] [0.8 0.5] 4 5 180.6 -0.3 270 [0.4 0.6] [0.4 1.3] [0 1.5] [0.4 0.7] 5 6 140.3 -4.9 777 0.5 0.1 0.4 0.5 6 7 224 11 43 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 7 8 144.1 1.2 1011 0 0.4 0.3 0.3 1 2 141.2 -23.1 765 [4 4.1] [2 1.7] [0.5 6] [1 0.4] 2 3 157.4 -0.9 1015 1.4 1.2 0.2 0.3 endcenterline _________ WRONG DENIVELATION: (42 m lenght, 25 m den.) centerline date 2014.4.4 units tape cm data normal from to compass clino tape flags surface 2S p1 172.6 21.4 2087 p1 p2 34.7 31.8 1988 p2 p3 8.9 11.1 841 p3 J4 12.2 -29.8 388 p3 p4 137.3 17.4 1635 data normal from to compass clino tape right left up down flags not surface p4 p5 33.6 -0.4 362 [0.3 0.1] [0.3 0.1] [0.9 3] [0.8 0.5] data normal from to compass clino tape flags surface p4 p6 188.7 1.1 3872 p6 4 186.1 -7.5 208 data normal from to compass clino tape right left up down flags not surface 4 5 180.6 -0.3 270 [0.4 0.6] [0.4 1.3] [0 1.5] [0.4 0.7] 5 6 140.3 -4.9 777 0.5 0.1 0.4 0.5 6 7 224 11 43 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.1 7 8 144.1 1.2 1011 0 0.4 0.3 0.3 data normal from to compass clino tape flags surface p6 p7 272.4 -22.6 521 p7 1 167.2 -17.5 295 data normal from to compass clino tape right left up down flags not surface 1 2 141.2 -23.1 765 [4 4.1] [2 1.7] [0.5 6] [1 0.4] 2 3 157.4 -0.9 1015 1.4 1.2 0.2 0.3 data normal from to compass clino tape flags surface p7 p8 277.4 -39.3 1769 p8 - 148 0 700 p8 p9 172.6 14.5 2075 p9 J1 65.5 -10.2 126 endcenterline ________ Paľo Herich

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Re: [Therion] v5.3.14 Therion Digest, Vol 100, Issue 4
by Dave Clucas 03 Apr '14

03 Apr '14

Yes, I already tried that but got this error. I do have VTK5 installed mycaves:Library daveclucas$ brew install https://raw.githubusercontent.com/un1x86/homebrew-science/therion/therion.rb ######################################################################## 100.0% Error: No available formula for vtk (dependency of therion) Searching taps... homebrew/versions/vtk5 homebrew/science/vtk Dave Clucas dave.clucas(a)icloud.com On 2 Apr 2014, at 11:00, therion-request(a)speleo.sk wrote: > Send Therion mailing list submissions to > therion(a)speleo.sk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > therion-request(a)speleo.sk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > therion-owner(a)speleo.sk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Therion digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: v5.3.14 Therion Digest, Vol 100, Issue 3 (Dave Clucas) > 2. Re: v5.3.14 Therion Digest, Vol 100, Issue 3 (Christian Sandrini) > 3. Re: v5.3.14 Therion Digest, Vol 100, Issue 3 (Martin Sluka) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 20:42:35 +0100 > From: Dave Clucas <dave.clucas(a)icloud.com> > Subject: Re: [Therion] v5.3.14 Therion Digest, Vol 100, Issue 3 > To: therion(a)speleo.sk > Message-ID: <78FDC314-A93A-446E-B030-3C4DDF47B3FA(a)icloud.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Now getting this error > > daveclucas$ brew install therion > ==> Downloading http://therion.speleo.sk/downloads/therion-5.3.12.tar.gz > Already downloaded: /Library/Caches/Homebrew/therion-5.3.12.tar.gz > ==> make config-macosx > ==> make > ==> make install > "if {[string equal $platform WIN32]} { > copyfile 1 therion.exe "c:/Program files/Therion/therion.exe" > copyfile 1 xtherion/xtherion.tcl "c:/Program f..." > (file "makeinstall.tcl" line 25) > > Dave Clucas > daveclucas.com > mycaves.org. > daveclucas(a)icloud.com > > > > > >

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Re: [Therion] v5.3.14 Therion Digest, Vol 100, Issue 3
by Dave Clucas 02 Apr '14

02 Apr '14

Now getting this error daveclucas$ brew install therion ==> Downloading http://therion.speleo.sk/downloads/therion-5.3.12.tar.gz Already downloaded: /Library/Caches/Homebrew/therion-5.3.12.tar.gz ==> make config-macosx ==> make ==> make install "if {[string equal $platform WIN32]} { copyfile 1 therion.exe "c:/Program files/Therion/therion.exe" copyfile 1 xtherion/xtherion.tcl "c:/Program f..." (file "makeinstall.tcl" line 25) Dave Clucas daveclucas.com mycaves.org. daveclucas(a)icloud.com

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Re: [Therion] 5.3.14 brew Therion Digest, Vol 99, Issue 8
by Dave Clucas 01 Apr '14

01 Apr '14

Is v5.3.14 now available in brew repository. If so how do I install it? I tried brew install thereon but got Error: No available formula for thereon Dave Clucas dave.clucas(a)icloud.com On 18 Mar 2014, at 11:00, therion-request(a)speleo.sk wrote: > Send Therion mailing list submissions to > therion(a)speleo.sk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > therion-request(a)speleo.sk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > therion-owner(a)speleo.sk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Therion digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Added 5.3.14 to brew (Martin Sluka) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 23:21:28 +0100 > From: Martin Sluka <martinsluka(a)mac.com> > Subject: Re: [Therion] Added 5.3.14 to brew > To: List for Therion users <therion(a)speleo.sk> > Message-ID: <DE2E514A-3893-4A6B-A4E0-547531C9ADD2(a)mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > OK, I may wait for official recipe. > > Thanks much > > m.s. > > 17. 3. 2014 v 23:04, Christian Sandrini <christian.sandrini(a)me.com>: > >> Again. It will not be available yet. For now you can use ?brew install https://raw.github.com/un1x86/homebrew-science/therion/therion.rb? >> > > >

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5.3.14
by Stacho Mudrak 01 Apr '14

01 Apr '14

Hi everybody, yesterday I have updated xtherion a little bit. "Edit->Hide inactive scraps" should work now as well as right clicking on point or line invokes context menu. If you have some idea, what else should go to context menu or how items there should be arranged, please let me know. For windows users: I have upgraded bundled TclTk to 8.6 (in fact, only 8.5 features were needed), but I had to compile it my self. I hope, there will be no major issues. Regards, S.

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