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html output tab names
by Bruce Mutton 12 Nov '08

12 Nov '08

Have just being wondering about the tab names allocated to survey, caves and continuations html outputs. They are all named "therion table output" as pictured below, at least using Windows they are.. This is all very well, but very confusing when 5 or 6 of them are open. Perhaps something like; <filename> survey table <filename> caves table <filename> continuations table would be more user friendly? Bruce

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Continuation Text Alignment
by Bruce Mutton 11 Nov '08

11 Nov '08

Hi again This may have been covered before. but a quick search doesn't show up anything. As in the picture below, I have a continuation listed in my .th file, thus; station RJ59a "continues; silt almost fills, air is 'fresh'" \ dig continuation attr Code "Needs Digging" \ explored 100m The question mark and text generated is aligned top-right of the survey station by default. As you can see, in this case it would be better aligned bottom-left. Is there a way of doing this? I tried adding -align l to the above statements, and as I more or less expected received an error for my effort. (I'm using the 5.2.2 update, and I notice that the handy section at the end of the Therion book that comes with 5.2 has been dropped off.) Thanks in advance Bruce

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how to input shots from the station to the cave wall?
by Wolfgang Zillig 07 Nov '08

07 Nov '08

Hi, what is the best way to enter measurement data from the current station to the cave wall? Basically this is thought to replace LRUD with real measurements. The form how the data is generated looks like: 1.0 1.1 12.32 234.5 -12.2 # from to tape compass clino 1.0 2.33 123.3 0.1 # from tape compass clino 1.0 3.44 345.5 76.5 # from tape compass clino ... The measurements in line 2 and 3 should not count for cave length too. Is there a way to use this measurements in generation of the 3d volume model? Any help is welcome. Wolfgang

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export cave-list
by Bruce Mutton 04 Nov '08

04 Nov '08

Just noticed a curious thing; a bug perhaps? The following lines give me an output that includes altitudes of entrances and no co-ordinates, as I would expect; #!CAVE LIST EXPORT export cave-list -output ./Outputs/GLMESM_SystemCaves.html #\ # -location on And the following gives entrance co-ordinates but no altitudes; #!CAVE LIST EXPORT export cave-list -output ./Outputs/GLMESM_SystemCaves.html \ -location on Why no altitudes?

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Compilation error with Therion PDF : cp code error --1: An solution
by GHTopo 03 Nov '08

03 Nov '08

M/Ref: My previous post Hello, I have related error "cp code error --1" in my previous message. In therion.ini file, I reactivate the following line and specify location of the temporary folder. ### Path to temporary directory ### tmp-path "./Temp/" When compiling, all processes successes and PDF files are generated. Good morning. For E. Madelaine: Pb résolu. JP CASSOU (FR) Handicapped caver (ICD-10: G40, G41, F84) -------------------

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Loch Segfault
by Martin Luethi 31 Oct '08

31 Oct '08

Hi Since a while I experience segfaults during startup of loch. The error is somewhat hard to pin down. It seems like loch (or some library it uses) tries to write onto a socket that is used for X11: === line 1177/8 === connect(5, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/tmp/.X11-unix/X0"...}, 110) = 0 getpeername(5, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/tmp/.X11-unix/X0"...}, [20]) = 0 ==== This happens with a fresh compile from 5.2.1 sources on a Ubuntu and on a Archlinux system. Thanks, Martin BTW: why is /etc/passwd read (line 1161)?

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map-comment replace, concatinate, order
by Bruce Mutton 21 Oct '08

21 Oct '08

Just a comment on the behaviour of 'map-comment', and perhaps a request to make it more consistent. I have, for example, three layout files, one of them contains the following instructions, and it calls the two layouts, each of which is in it's own file and contains only a map-comment in it. map-comment "Preliminary Release October 2008...\ # line 1 <br><br>EXPLORATION NOTES:" copy LayoutGreenlinkAnnotation # line 2 copy LayoutSwissM_Annotation # line 3 Now as I requested some time back, the output pdf contains a concatenation of the three map comments. If I change the order of the last two lines, the output order changes. So far, so good. If I place line 1 at the end (or anywhere else), it's contents remain at the start of the concatenation. If I have multiple map-comment lines in any one layout, only the last map-comment is retained. (The original behaviour I believe) So two issues; 1. The order of the components is only partially controllable. 2. The concatenation (as opposed to replacement) modification has only partly being implemented. Is it possible to remedy these without messing up the processing a whole lot of (other peoples) maps? Taa, Bruce

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Re: [Therion] scale image
by andrea.marassich＠email.it 15 Oct '08

15 Oct '08

Thanks a lot..... Andrea --------- Original Message -------- Da: "List for Therion users" <therion@speleo.sk> To: "'List for Therion users'" <therion@speleo.sk> Oggetto: Re: [Therion] scale image Data: 15/10/08 13:23 Hi Andrea I’ve got an output of sorts.  (You can rename the thc file to txt)   Errors that stopped your files compiling mainly to do with misnaming. File extensions missing in your thconfig file, selection of the map to plot missing.     Small glitches: Two bottom lines in isler.th2 needed reversing (tick the reverse box) so the yellow arrow points inside the passage.   Hope this gets you started again. Bruce     From: therion-bounces(a)speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of andrea.marassich(a)email.it Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 9:08 p.m. To: List for Therion users Subject: Re: [Therion] scale image   Hi,  sorry to bother you again with this issue, which probably is little bit beyond basics and beyond my current understanding of Therion, but it' the cave I'm working on, so I'm just in need of the output :) I just attach the files, hope it works. Maybe there's some very basic misunderstanding....not just the connection of the scraps. thanks a bunch Andrea   --------- Original Message -------- Da: "List for Therion users" <therion@speleo.sk> To: "List for Therion users" <therion@speleo.sk> Oggetto: Re: [Therion] scale image Data: 14/10/08 17:31 Hi Andrea, first sorry for the late answer, I am a little bit busy right now. Just to be sure, that I understand your problem correctly: You have an old drawing of some cave part without any centreline data, but you are able to map two stations in that drawing to stations in your centreline. Is this correct? If this is the situation, all you need to do is to add these two stations to this scrap and reference them with "-name" option to the names you know as you do for scraps where you have complete centreline. And new scrap should be placed correctly - I believe. More complicated it would be, if you will have just one or no station, but even this is feasible. If it does not help you, do not hesitate to send me some sample data that demonstrate your problem. My be I did not understood your problem correctly. Regards, S. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:59 PM, <andrea.marassich@email.it> wrote: > Sorry, forgot to mention two stations of my centerline are located into the > image I can draw and which is without scale. > > hope this give you enough information. > > best, > > Andrea Marassich > > Hi, > > sorry to bother with a beginner question, but cannot make it even reading > through the archives. > > I have a .th file with centerline and .th2 file with his scraps. > > Now I should add to this a th2 file with an image of an old survey. I drawed > walls and all objects in the scrap but do not know the scale and do not have > original data of the centerline. > > How can I put together my centerline/scrap of known scale with this image? > Do not know how to do it and I'm having dificulty understanding how the > scale process is working. > > could you help me on this? > > thanks a lot > > Andrea Marassich > > _______________________________________________ > Therion mailing list > Therion(a)speleo.sk > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion > > _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion(a)speleo.sk http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion(a)speleo.sk http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion

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Re: [Therion] scale image
by andrea.marassich＠email.it 15 Oct '08

15 Oct '08

Hi,  sorry to bother you again with this issue, which probably is little bit beyond basics and beyond my current understanding of Therion, but it' the cave I'm working on, so I'm just in need of the output :) I just attach the files, hope it works. Maybe there's some very basic misunderstanding....not just the connection of the scraps. thanks a bunch Andrea   --------- Original Message -------- Da: "List for Therion users" <therion@speleo.sk> To: "List for Therion users" <therion@speleo.sk> Oggetto: Re: [Therion] scale image Data: 14/10/08 17:31 Hi Andrea, first sorry for the late answer, I am a little bit busy right now. Just to be sure, that I understand your problem correctly: You have an old drawing of some cave part without any centreline data, but you are able to map two stations in that drawing to stations in your centreline. Is this correct? If this is the situation, all you need to do is to add these two stations to this scrap and reference them with "-name" option to the names you know as you do for scraps where you have complete centreline. And new scrap should be placed correctly - I believe. More complicated it would be, if you will have just one or no station, but even this is feasible. If it does not help you, do not hesitate to send me some sample data that demonstrate your problem. My be I did not understood your problem correctly. Regards, S. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:59 PM, <andrea.marassich@email.it> wrote: > Sorry, forgot to mention two stations of my centerline are located into the > image I can draw and which is without scale. > > hope this give you enough information. > > best, > > Andrea Marassich > > Hi, > > sorry to bother with a beginner question, but cannot make it even reading > through the archives. > > I have a .th file with centerline and .th2 file with his scraps. > > Now I should add to this a th2 file with an image of an old survey. I drawed > walls and all objects in the scrap but do not know the scale and do not have > original data of the centerline. > > How can I put together my centerline/scrap of known scale with this image? > Do not know how to do it and I'm having dificulty understanding how the > scale process is working. > > could you help me on this? > > thanks a lot > > Andrea Marassich > > _______________________________________________ > Therion mailing list > Therion(a)speleo.sk > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion > > _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion(a)speleo.sk http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion

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symbol-show-and-hide
by Bruce Mutton 14 Oct '08

14 Oct '08

Hi again Been working on presentation some more, and have two more conundrums. How do I use a layout to hide altitude points attached to the cave walls? How do I show 'fixed' station points and show their names, but hide all other station points and names? debug station-names is too much. Bruce A sample of some of the show/hides I am using. #CAVE APPEARANCE #--------------- symbol-hide point cave-station symbol-show group cave-centreline #shows passage not yet drawn symbol-hide group surface-centreline #hide labels symbol-hide point label symbol-hide line label symbol-hide line arrow symbol-hide point altitude #symbol-hide line altitude #causes error symbol-hide point station-name #specific station name points - this line works fine with show or hide #hide sections symbol-hide point section #cross section locations symbol-hide line section #cross section cutting planes #blackout passage colour map-fg [0 0 0] #black # Shading in cave passage, <colour>, <altitude>, <scrap>, <map> # color map-fg map #colour map-fg [97 86 38] # yellow brown transparency off # see thru passages #opacity 40 # degree of transparency

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