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Re: [Therion] Therion Digest, Vol 37, Issue 15
by Dave Clucas 01 Jan '09

01 Jan '09

I'm afraid that's what I thought. We have the situation here in Mulu where the main passages are 50m wide with house sized boulders with side passages a mere 5m wide and small car size boulders so ideally we need a mixture of block sizes to play with. And of course chambers the size of football fields. On 31 Dec 2008, at 19:00, therion-request(a)speleo.sk wrote: > Send Therion mailing list submissions to > therion(a)speleo.sk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > therion-request(a)speleo.sk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > therion-owner(a)speleo.sk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Therion digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Using metapost code examples (Stefan Oswald) > 2. Re: Using metapost code examples (Martin Budaj) > 3. Re: Using metapost code examples (Wookey) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 13:01:17 +0100 > From: "Stefan Oswald" <stefan_oswald(a)gmx.at> > Subject: Re: [Therion] Using metapost code examples > To: therion(a)speleo.sk > Message-ID: <20081230120117.233970(a)gmx.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, > > The size is controlled by the factor before the u. > (symbolsize:=1.0u; %Factor*u; Factor=size of the blocks change 1.0 > as you want) >> Does this apply to each instance of a block or is it a >> global definition. > This overrules the point_block sizes in the whole plan compiled. > Size canging/definition of a single block is, as far as i know, not > possible and not projected? > > The problem was (with other symbols it is still the case, a solution > could be, for example an layout command for small symbols) that with > small caves in small scales the normative symbol size is too large, > so it might happen that you only see a small part of the symbol in a > narrow passage on small scale. > You can handle this problem with block_points and block_area in UIS > as in described in wiki by changing the factor before the "u". > > Gl?ck Tief, Stefan > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- >> Datum: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:00:01 +0100 >> Von: therion-request(a)speleo.sk >> An: therion(a)speleo.sk >> Betreff: Therion Digest, Vol 37, Issue 14 > >> Send Therion mailing list submissions to >> therion(a)speleo.sk >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> therion-request(a)speleo.sk >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> therion-owner(a)speleo.sk >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Therion digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Using metapost code examples (Dave Clucas) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:00:56 +0800 >> From: Dave Clucas <dave(a)daveclucas.com> >> Subject: [Therion] Using metapost code examples >> To: therion(a)speleo.sk >> Message-ID: <2CDC217E-E91E-4780-A35C-F6B719CC9D32(a)daveclucas.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; >> DelSp="yes" >> >> Looking at the metapost examples in the Wiki it appears that a block >> symbol can be defined or redefined which allows the size of the block >> to be changed. Does this apply to each instance of a block or is it a >> global definition. How do you specify the size of the block when you >> place it in the drawing? >> >> code metapost >> def p_blocks_UIS (expr pos,theta,sc,al)= >> symbolsize:=1.0u; %Factor*u; Factor=size of the blocks >> U:=(.5u,.5u); >> T:=identity aligned al rotated theta scaled sc shifted pos; >> pickup PenC; >> thdraw (.0symbolsize,.0symbolsize)--(1.0symbolsize,-. >> 5symbolsize)--(0.0symbolsize,-1.5symbolsize)-- >> (-1.0symbolsize,-1.0symbolsize)--cycle; >> thdraw (.5symbolsize,-.25symbolsize)--(1.0symbolsize,. >> 5symbolsize)--(0.0symbolsize,1.5symbolsize)--(-0.5symbolsize,. >> 5symbolsize); >> thdraw (.0symbolsize,.0symbolsize)--(.0symbolsize,.5symbolsize)-- >> (-1.5symbolsize,.5symbolsize)--(-1.5symbolsize,-0.5symbolsize)-- >> (-0.5symbolsize,-0.5symbolsize); >> enddef; >> endcode >> >> >> >> Dave Clucas >> email:dave@daveclucas.com >> Website: http://daveclucas.com >> http://mycaves.org >> Skype: daveclucas >> >> >> >> >>

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Re: [Therion] Using metapost code examples
by Stefan Oswald 30 Dec '08

30 Dec '08

Hi, The size is controlled by the factor before the u. (symbolsize:=1.0u; %Factor*u; Factor=size of the blocks change 1.0 as you want) >Does this apply to each instance of a block or is it a >global definition. This overrules the point_block sizes in the whole plan compiled. Size canging/definition of a single block is, as far as i know, not possible and not projected? The problem was (with other symbols it is still the case, a solution could be, for example an layout command for small symbols) that with small caves in small scales the normative symbol size is too large, so it might happen that you only see a small part of the symbol in a narrow passage on small scale. You can handle this problem with block_points and block_area in UIS as in described in wiki by changing the factor before the "u". Glück Tief, Stefan -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:00:01 +0100 > Von: therion-request(a)speleo.sk > An: therion(a)speleo.sk > Betreff: Therion Digest, Vol 37, Issue 14 > Send Therion mailing list submissions to > therion(a)speleo.sk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > therion-request(a)speleo.sk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > therion-owner(a)speleo.sk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Therion digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Using metapost code examples (Dave Clucas) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:00:56 +0800 > From: Dave Clucas <dave(a)daveclucas.com> > Subject: [Therion] Using metapost code examples > To: therion(a)speleo.sk > Message-ID: <2CDC217E-E91E-4780-A35C-F6B719CC9D32(a)daveclucas.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; > DelSp="yes" > > Looking at the metapost examples in the Wiki it appears that a block > symbol can be defined or redefined which allows the size of the block > to be changed. Does this apply to each instance of a block or is it a > global definition. How do you specify the size of the block when you > place it in the drawing? > > code metapost > def p_blocks_UIS (expr pos,theta,sc,al)= > symbolsize:=1.0u; %Factor*u; Factor=size of the blocks > U:=(.5u,.5u); > T:=identity aligned al rotated theta scaled sc shifted pos; > pickup PenC; > thdraw (.0symbolsize,.0symbolsize)--(1.0symbolsize,-. > 5symbolsize)--(0.0symbolsize,-1.5symbolsize)-- > (-1.0symbolsize,-1.0symbolsize)--cycle; > thdraw (.5symbolsize,-.25symbolsize)--(1.0symbolsize,. > 5symbolsize)--(0.0symbolsize,1.5symbolsize)--(-0.5symbolsize,. > 5symbolsize); > thdraw (.0symbolsize,.0symbolsize)--(.0symbolsize,.5symbolsize)-- > (-1.5symbolsize,.5symbolsize)--(-1.5symbolsize,-0.5symbolsize)-- > (-0.5symbolsize,-0.5symbolsize); > enddef; > endcode > > > > Dave Clucas > email:dave@daveclucas.com > Website: http://daveclucas.com > http://mycaves.org > Skype: daveclucas > > > > >

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Using metapost code examples
by Dave Clucas 30 Dec '08

30 Dec '08

Looking at the metapost examples in the Wiki it appears that a block symbol can be defined or redefined which allows the size of the block to be changed. Does this apply to each instance of a block or is it a global definition. How do you specify the size of the block when you place it in the drawing? code metapost def p_blocks_UIS (expr pos,theta,sc,al)= symbolsize:=1.0u; %Factor*u; Factor=size of the blocks U:=(.5u,.5u); T:=identity aligned al rotated theta scaled sc shifted pos; pickup PenC; thdraw (.0symbolsize,.0symbolsize)--(1.0symbolsize,-. 5symbolsize)--(0.0symbolsize,-1.5symbolsize)-- (-1.0symbolsize,-1.0symbolsize)--cycle; thdraw (.5symbolsize,-.25symbolsize)--(1.0symbolsize,. 5symbolsize)--(0.0symbolsize,1.5symbolsize)--(-0.5symbolsize,. 5symbolsize); thdraw (.0symbolsize,.0symbolsize)--(.0symbolsize,.5symbolsize)-- (-1.5symbolsize,.5symbolsize)--(-1.5symbolsize,-0.5symbolsize)-- (-0.5symbolsize,-0.5symbolsize); enddef; endcode Dave Clucas email:dave@daveclucas.com Website: http://daveclucas.com http://mycaves.org Skype: daveclucas

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Preview from other map-levels
by Bruce Mutton 28 Dec '08

28 Dec '08

Hi all Just when I thought I was getting comfortable with hierarchies of maps with various combinations of previews and offsets. I can no longer put off the realisation that I don't understand how to display a preview if Therion decides it will not do it with the default behaviour. I suspect the solution lies with the revise command; but how to make it work? The following text from the therion book makes reasonable sense, and generally works just fine. "_ preview <above/below> <other map id> will put the outline of the other map in the specified preview position relative to the current map. Preview is displayed only if the map is in the map-level level as specified by the select command. Use the revise command if you want to add maps from higher levels to the preview." However the following does not seem to give enough information to proceed. "`revise' Description: This command is used to set or change properties of an already existing object. Syntax: The syntax of this command for object created with \single line" command is revise id [-option1 value1 -option2 value2 ...] For objects created with \multi line" commands is syntax following revise id [-option1 value1 -option2 value2 ...] ... optionX valueX data ... endrevise Context: all Arguments: The id stands for object identifier (the id of an object you want to revise must always be specified)." Tips on how to refer to a previously defined map (easy?) and which options need to be changed to which values(not so easy?)? A small example anyone? Thanks Bruce

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Context point air-draught example from Therion Book fails
by Bruce Mutton 27 Dec '08

27 Dec '08

Seasons Greetings! In one of my scraps, the line; point 517.0 -483.0 label -text "15 Dec 2008" -scale xs -context point air-draught produces an error, D:\Program Files\Therion\therion.exe: error -- Late08RPElev_02.th2 [10] -- object context not allowed -- point air-draught This example is taken almost exactly from footnote 20, page 24 of the therion book. Is there something I'm doing wrong? (Still using 5.2.3) Bruce

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Two scraps, one river...
by Fabio Kok Geribello 24 Dec '08

24 Dec '08

Hi all, We´re using Therion to produce maps for many caves in Brazil but I´m having some poor results wen I have to join scraps with intersecting areas. I know that Therion is only able to join lines so how do I represent a river, for exemple that spreads between two or more scraps? Usualy there is a gap appearing due to the scraps adjustments Is there any trick to solve that? Thank you, Fabio

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selection of stations/shots for xvi export?
by Xavier Pennec 21 Dec '08

21 Dec '08

Is there a way to select only a subpart of a survey for an xvi export in a plan or an elevation? When reading the thbook, it seems to me that the selection tools are only for extended elevation maps only. Xavier

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Explored 80m OK, 8m not OK
by Bruce Mutton 21 Dec '08

21 Dec '08

Hi ya In my th file the line station RO31 "cream-brown flowstone too nice to explore" \ continuation explored 8m attr code "explored 8m cream-brown flowstone too nice go further" gives the following error; D:\Program Files\Therion\therion.exe: error -- SurveyRO.th [250] -- invalid explored length specification -- 8m Whereas the almost identical line (80m in place of 8m) station RO31 "cream-brown flowstone too nice to explore" \ continuation explored 80m attr code "explored 8m cream-brown flowstone too nice go further" compiles perfectly. What is going on? Am using 5.2.3 Regards Bruce

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therion 5.2.4 - changes
by Martin Sluka 20 Dec '08

20 Dec '08

ustable version 5.2.4 is available m.s. list of changes: therion: * georeferencing data added to pdf maps * support for splay shots without station names * bugs fixed: - BCRA3 and BCRA5 survey grades fixed - missing altitudes in cave list - atlas page exclusion - map header positioning using real numbers - attribute export to metapost xtherion: * script for creation of OziExplorer MAP files for georeferenced maps (Help->Calibrate bitmap) * added import functions for PocketTopo export - centerline in text editor - File->Import->PocketTopo therion export - sketches in map editor - Backgroud Images->Insert->PocketTopo therion export * bugs fixed: - loch: * added Tools->Options->Measurement system setup * bugs fixed:

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therion 5.2.4
by Martin Sluka 20 Dec '08

20 Dec '08

ustable version 5.2.4 is available m.s.

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