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Pocket Topo Shot Direction question
by Footleg 26 Jan '15

26 Jan '15

Can anyone tell me what the purpose/use is of the menu item in PocketTopo on the data screen which says either 'Shot ->' or 'Shot <-' ? I see it set to one or the other on my shots depending whether they were forward or back shots. But then the shots direction is still indicated primarily by the station names in the From and To columns. So I am not clear what this menu item does or when I might want or need to use it? Footleg

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What about this source of data?
by Martin Sluka 24 Jan '15

24 Jan '15

https://www.mapbox.com/ m.

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Magnetic declination meltdown
by Bruce 21 Jan '15

21 Jan '15

It seems I was wrong about the cause of the problem, the problem is more in Therion than in data entry. Looks like Therion 5.3.15 cannot handle survey dates in 2015 (as implied in the changes logs), and so 5.3.16 is required to use coordinate systems with surveys dated from 2015 onwards. That is OK, but what could be improved, is the reporting of the error to something like. magnetic declination not available for survey date and also to improve the variable \magdecl in this circumstance. Bruce _____ From: Bruce [mailto:bruce@tomo.co.nz] Sent: Monday, 19 January 2015 4:34 p.m. To: 'List for Therion users' Subject: Magnetic declination meltdown A random discovery with the new tex variable \magdecl = magnetic declination in degrees. If one uses a defined coordinate system and forgets to provide a survey date for all surveys, then there is some 'not very well trapped' undesirable behaviour. The log file produces something like this. "C:\Program Files\Therion\therion.exe: warning -- unable to determine magnetic declination for undated surveys output coordinate system: EPSG:2193 meridian convergence (deg): -0.0696 " which is appropriate behaviour, however it is followed by. " #################### end of metapost log file #################### converting scraps ... done making map ... done ######################## pdftex log file ######################### This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (Web2C 2009) (format=pdftex 2010.1.2) 18 JAN 2015 20:21 entering extended mode **data.tex (./data.tex (./th_enc.tex) (./th_texts.tex) (./th_resources.tex (c:/Program Files/Therion/texmf/tex/glyphtounicode.tex)) (./th_fontdef.tex{c:/P rogram Files/Therion/texmf/fonts/pdftex.map}) (./th_formdef.tex Normal \count register pool exhausted, switching to extended pool.) (./th_pagedef.tex Overfull \hbox (299.59392pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 12--12 []\thfb gridnorth -1261120821493519700000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000.00deg | \hbox(8.33333+2.33333)x330.05206, glue set - 1.0 .\hbox(0.0+0.0)x0.0 .\thfb g .\thfb r .\thfb i .\thfb d .etc. ) (./th_pages.tex) 253 numeric registers used out of 32768 [1] ) Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 1706 strings out of 95617 .. " which is not so good, but at least it does produce a generally OK looking pdf (with my experimental debug like header layout). In this case it might be better to set \magdecl to a more meaningful error value. If it can take a string value then "unable to determine magnetic declination for undated surveys" is probably good. Bruce

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Magnetic declination meltdown
by Bruce 19 Jan '15

19 Jan '15

A random discovery with the new tex variable \magdecl = magnetic declination in degrees. If one uses a defined coordinate system and forgets to provide a survey date for all surveys, then there is some 'not very well trapped' undesirable behaviour. The log file produces something like this. "C:\Program Files\Therion\therion.exe: warning -- unable to determine magnetic declination for undated surveys output coordinate system: EPSG:2193 meridian convergence (deg): -0.0696 " which is appropriate behaviour, however it is followed by. " #################### end of metapost log file #################### converting scraps ... done making map ... done ######################## pdftex log file ######################### This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (Web2C 2009) (format=pdftex 2010.1.2) 18 JAN 2015 20:21 entering extended mode **data.tex (./data.tex (./th_enc.tex) (./th_texts.tex) (./th_resources.tex (c:/Program Files/Therion/texmf/tex/glyphtounicode.tex)) (./th_fontdef.tex{c:/P rogram Files/Therion/texmf/fonts/pdftex.map}) (./th_formdef.tex Normal \count register pool exhausted, switching to extended pool.) (./th_pagedef.tex Overfull \hbox (299.59392pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 12--12 []\thfb gridnorth -1261120821493519700000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000.00deg | \hbox(8.33333+2.33333)x330.05206, glue set - 1.0 .\hbox(0.0+0.0)x0.0 .\thfb g .\thfb r .\thfb i .\thfb d .etc. ) (./th_pages.tex) 253 numeric registers used out of 32768 [1] ) Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 1706 strings out of 95617 .. " which is not so good, but at least it does produce a generally OK looking pdf (with my experimental debug like header layout). In this case it might be better to set \magdecl to a more meaningful error value. If it can take a string value then "unable to determine magnetic declination for undated surveys" is probably good. Bruce

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Re: [Therion] Therion doesn't run on Windows (rowena) (Graham Mullan)
by Dave Clucas 17 Jan '15

17 Jan '15

I uninstalled Therion and reinstalled it. It said it would put a shortcut in a start menu folder called Therion. After installation I could not see a shortcut anywhere. I followed Rowena’s advice and created one manually on the desktop. This worked fine. I must say I’m not impressed with the Windows 8 UI. Glad I don’t normally have to use Windows. Dave Clucas daveclucas.com sarawak-caves.com dave.clucas(a)icloud.com Exploring the World - One cave at a time On 17 Jan 2015, at 19:00, therion-request(a)speleo.sk wrote: > Re: Therion doesn't run on Windows (rowena) (Graham Mullan)

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Problem with station names. Re: Therion Digest, Vol 109, Issue 23
by Dave Clucas 17 Jan '15

17 Jan '15

My apologies. The station names are there but the font is so small they are barely visible. I’ll customise the font sizes. Dave Clucas daveclucas.com sarawak-caves.com dave.clucas(a)icloud.com Exploring the World - One cave at a time On 17 Jan 2015, at 13:28, therion-request(a)speleo.sk wrote: > Problem with station names.

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Re: [Therion] Therion doesn't run on Windows (rowena)
by Graham Mullan 17 Jan '15

17 Jan '15

Dave One wonders quite what you are doing to get to that command line. This machine is running Windows 8.1 and has Therion 5.3.16 installed. On installation, Therion placed a shortcut in my Start menu. That points, as does Rowena's at "C:\Program Files (x86)\Therion\bin\wish86t.exe" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Therion\xtherion.tcl" Now, if I navigate to therion.exe at C:\Program Files (x86)\Therion\therion.exe I, too get a command line box and the message: C:\Program Files (x86)\Therion\therion.exe: error -- source files not specified. What I don't quite understand is why your machine doesn't have the correct shortcut installed. Graham

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Therion doesn't run on Windows
by Dave Clucas 17 Jan '15

17 Jan '15

I’ve just installed Therion on a Windows machine. When I click on the Therion shortcut it opens a command window and gives the following error. “C:\Program Files (x86)\Therion\xtherion.exe” is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file Running Windows 8 about which I know absolutely nothing, I normally use a mac. Dave Clucas daveclucas.com sarawak-caves.com dave.clucas(a)icloud.com Exploring the World - One cave at a time

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Problem with station names. Re: Therion Digest, Vol 109, Issue 22
by Dave Clucas 17 Jan '15

17 Jan '15

No, still doesn’t work layout outline scale 1 200 symbol-hide group all symbol-show line wall symbol-colour group cave-centreline [100 0 0] symbol-show group cave-centreline symbol-show point station debug station-names endlayout Dave Clucas daveclucas.com sarawak-caves.com dave.clucas(a)icloud.com Exploring the World - One cave at a time On 17 Jan 2015, at 04:51, therion-request(a)speleo.sk wrote: > Send Therion mailing list submissions to > therion(a)speleo.sk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > therion-request(a)speleo.sk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > therion-owner(a)speleo.sk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Therion digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Problem with station names (Dave Clucas) > 2. Re: Problem with station names (herich(a)speleodd.sk) > 3. Re: Problem with station names (Bruce) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 19:27:35 +0800 > From: Dave Clucas <dave.clucas(a)icloud.com> > Subject: [Therion] Problem with station names > To: therion(a)speleo.sk > Message-ID: <095F800F-4116-4324-B7FB-FD4FEF44089C(a)icloud.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > For some reason I can?t get the station names to show. > > layout outline > scale 1 200 > symbol-hide group all > symbol-show line wall > symbol-colour group cave-centreline [100 0 0] > symbol-show group cave-centreline > symbol-show point cave-station > symbol-show point station-name > debug station-names > endlayout > > I also tried with just debug on > > xtherion Version 5.3.11 > > Dave Clucas > daveclucas.com > sarawak-caves.com > dave.clucas(a)icloud.com > > Exploring the World - One cave at a time > > >

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Problem with station names
by Dave Clucas 16 Jan '15

16 Jan '15

For some reason I can’t get the station names to show. layout outline scale 1 200 symbol-hide group all symbol-show line wall symbol-colour group cave-centreline [100 0 0] symbol-show group cave-centreline symbol-show point cave-station symbol-show point station-name debug station-names endlayout I also tried with just debug on xtherion Version 5.3.11 Dave Clucas daveclucas.com sarawak-caves.com dave.clucas(a)icloud.com Exploring the World - One cave at a time

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