Dave Presumably you have some station-name points in the scraps that you are exporting? Station-names are drawing entities, not like the centerline entities that you see with 'debug station-names'. I ran your layout (with 5.3.16 but I am sure it is same with 5.3.11) and got this. So the station-names works, but not the debug. If I change as Herich suggested, (change symbol-show point cave-station to symbol-show point station) then the debug works as below, and I get both the centerline stations, plus the station-name points in the scrap. Ie 38.13, 38.45, 38.35 all show up twice, as they should. Display of centerline symbols is a bit messy, as discussed in previous posts. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.therion/3362/match=group+cave+statio n or on the wiki http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/faq#how_do_i_print_only_cave_or_surfa ce_stations_with_a_particular_mark_ie_fixed_or_painted I have trialed a standard way of setting out layouts to facilitate orderly display of only points with certain attributes - but it only works in limited situations, so not even sure if it is worth sharing. Bruce _____ From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Dave Clucas Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2015 12:28 a.m. To: therion@speleo.sk Subject: [Therion] Problem with station names For some reason I can't get the station names to show. layout outline scale 1 200 symbol-hide group all symbol-show line wall symbol-colour group cave-centreline [100 0 0] symbol-show group cave-centreline symbol-show point cave-station symbol-show point station-name debug station-names endlayout I also tried with just debug on xtherion Version 5.3.11 Dave Clucas <http://daveclucas.com> daveclucas.com <http://sarawak-caves.com> sarawak-caves.com <mailto:daveclucas@icloud.com> dave.clucas@icloud.com Exploring the World - One cave at a time