- Therion - speleo.sk

Newest version in Brew
by Christian Sandrini 16 Feb '15

16 Feb '15

Hi The newest Therion version has been pushed to the brew-science repository. best Chris

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Translation of Therion into simplified Chinese.
by Duncan Collis 09 Feb '15

09 Feb '15

Hi, I've been assisting with a translation of Therion into Simplified Chinese together with Zhang Yuanhai of the Institute of Karst Geology in Guilin. I've got a few questions about some of the text to translate, mostly relating to the context in which it will be used. In some cases I hope you'll just confirm what I already think, but I would like to be sure. Incidentally, I think that it would assist future translators of Therion if textx.txt and xtexts.txt contained comments to clarify the meaning in a few cases. I would be happy to add comments based on your replies to the questions below, if you just tell me what format they should be in. Thanks, Duncan. texts.txt There are a few texts which lack any translations, e.g. therion: point stalactites therion: point stalagmites therion: point pillars Are translations needed for these? xtexts.txt Some texts end with a period, e.g. therion: Therion command line options. therion: Run therion. therion: PDF file path. therion: Survey informations. and several others. What is the significance of this? therion: OK Please confirm that this 'OK' indicates normal completion, rather than inviting confirmation. therion: \nerror opening therion.log file\n What is '\n' ? Some translations have /n instead - is this a mistake or are they different? therion: Undo %s What is '%s' ? Is the space before it important? Some texts seem to be shorthand for something much longer, e.g. therion: Action button. en: After clicking this button, you can insert objects by mouse. Click on action to see menu. However, it is inconsistent whether translations into other languages are translations of the therion: text or the much longer en: text. Which is preferred? Many texts include a verb ending with -ing, e.g. therion: zooming therion: dragging image therion: moving command therion: creating endscrap therion: creating scrap therion: creating text therion: creating point therion: inserting scrap sketch therion: deleting scrap sketch therion: inserting image therion: removing image therion: moving image therion: deleting line point therion: inserting area border therion: deleting area border therion: creating area therion: creating line therion: inserting line point therion: moving control point therion: Opening %s ... therion: Saving %s ... therion: Processing line %s ... Do these appear in the status bar to indicate the an action currently taking place? therion: line closing therion: line opening therion: line ending These have a slightly different form - are they used differently from the other -ing texts? What is the difference between line closing and line ending? therion: To set file encoding, type encoding name and press <Change> button I can't find a corresponding text for the Change button. Which is it? therion: Save as therion: Import Should this text end with '...' ? Some translations do, some don't. Also, is there any reason for the different symbols used for '.' in different translations? therion: theme basic-symbols therion: theme passage-fills therion: theme speleothems therion: theme equipement How are these used?

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Fwd: The results of your email commands
by Yones Shariatmadari 03 Feb '15

03 Feb '15

Hello Dear friends i trying to install therion on mac , But when type Macs-MacBook-Pro:therion yonesshariatmadari$ sudo make install then see the following error: first see this error: couldn't understand kern.osversion `14.0.0' Undefined symbols: "std::__1::basic_ostream<char, std::__1::char_traits<char> >::flush()", referenced from: find_scrap(std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char> >)in thconvert.o after a second this: ld: symbol(s) not found collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [therion] Error 1 Macs-MacBook-Pro:therion yonesshariatmadari$ what should i do? please help me thank you

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Google Earth Pro
by Steve Clark 02 Feb '15

02 Feb '15

Just a quick note to say Google have just removed the fee from the Google Earth Pro licence (previously $400). This has a few features that are not available in normal google earth, including some export options and the ability to record movie fly-by's and zooms. I hoped it would allow the import of 3d .kml profiles which could be viewed in through a semi-transparent terrain. Unfortunately, it doesn't. You can, however, view the 3d .kml (for centrelines) for all altitudes above 0m (sea level) as follows : Turn of the 'terrain' rendering in the 'Layers' box (unavailable in normal google earth) Open up the 'Therion KML Export' in the Temporary Places section by clicking the small arrow. Right click on the three small dots and bring up the properties box. Select the altitude tab and change from 'Clamped to Ground' to 'Absolute' You can now view a cave centreline in 3d, hovering above the aerial photography. Steve Clark

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Lines and points outside walls
by Adam Sampson 30 Jan '15

30 Jan '15

I'm trying to see if there is a way to show all features...even if they are outside of the outer walls on my scrap/sketch. My team is using TopoDroid to do sketching in cave and then outputting that data for use. I then have to deal with that data and it would be nice to see everything they've drawn while I'm fixing the sketch. Right now the capacitive stylus leaves lots of overlapped wall lines and then I get big blank spots in my map if I try to export it directly. I export it directly so that I can see what all the pieces are while I'm fixing the .th2 file. It is a lot easier to visualize than those yellow lines in the therion editor. Appreciate any help. Thanks, Adam Sampsoncaver.adam(a)outlook.comwww.kentuckykarstconservancy.com

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symbol "u" problem
by herich＠speleodd.sk 29 Jan '15

29 Jan '15

Hello, I don´t know what I am doing wrong, but if I use something like this in layout: symbol-hide line wall (or show, color, assign), everything works perfect. But, it doesn´t work with "u" , so symbol-hide line u:definedname will make an error with comment - unknown symbol specification. In layout there is a definition of u:definedname, as well as "initsymbol("l_u_definedname"); , outside layout is defined name for legend and everything works well, except symbol-hide (or so) command. Do you have any idea? Thank you Palo

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Embedding cross-sections based on bitmaps
by Michael Wasmund 28 Jan '15

28 Jan '15

Hello, I'm familiar with the method of embedding cross-sections made using scrap editor. That works. For our 10km - cave, we have 100's of cross-sections scanned from paper (i.e., bitmaps), drawn decades ago. How can I embed those? The method used for scanned paper surveys seems not to work. Whatever parameters I use, the cross-section scrap remains invisible. (Pls don't tell me we have to re-draw all the cross-sections) Regards, Michael.

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How to imbed cross-sections based on bitmaps
by Michael Wasmund 28 Jan '15

28 Jan '15

Hello, Generating and embedding cross-sections based on scraps is well described and works. My question: How do I imbed a cross-section which was not drawn using scrap editor, but is a scanned bitmap? Whatever parameters I use, it will not show, remains invisible. Can someone send me an example or point to the location where this is described? (Pls don't tell me I have to redraw 100's of cross sections using scrap-editor) Regards, Michael.

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Depth labels different from altitude
by vladimirg＠mail.bg 28 Jan '15

28 Jan '15

Hi I am trying to display a depth bar on the extended profile that starts from 0. Not to show the altitude, but only the depth of the cave relative to the entrance. This is not a problem if I use the FIX command like: centerline cs long-lat fix 1 11:22:33.3 22:33:44.4 1000 # fix point 1to the WGS coordinates and altitude The thing is that I don't want to put 0 for an altitude because it seems useful to have the real altitude for some 3D, overlays, etc So I would like to use FIX with the altitude, but on the extended to see the cave depth starting from 0. I tried with some combinations of grid-origin like this, but I still see the altitude in the depth bar: layout xelev grid bottom cs long-lat grid-origin 0 0 0 m Is there a way to do it? Thanks Vladimir ------------------------------------- Как ти звучи хостинг със 75% отстъпка и неограничен трафик? Възползвай се от специалната зимна промоция на СуперХостинг.БГ! http://www.superhosting.bg/promo/winter2015?utm_source=MailBG&utm_medium=Fo…

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volume of a cave
by Filippo Gregori 27 Jan '15

27 Jan '15

Hello, I would like calculating volume of a cave. I made the survey and I exported with therion loch the file in .vtk. I'm using paraview now, it's a good software for modelling of a solid 3d but I don't found a simple solution to resolve my problem. Have you ever done this calculation? And how? Thanks Filippo Gregori (Vicenza - IT)

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