Can anyone tell me what the purpose/use is of the menu item in PocketTopo on the data screen which says either 'Shot ->' or 'Shot <-' ? I see it set to one or the other on my shots depending whether they were forward or back shots. But then the shots direction is still indicated primarily by the station names in the From and To columns. So I am not clear what this menu item does or when I might want or need to use it? Footleg
I believe it is the direction used on the extended elevation (from memory) Andrew On 25 Jan 2015 21:41, "Footleg" <drfootleg@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the purpose/use is of the menu item in PocketTopo on the data screen which says either 'Shot ->' or 'Shot <-' ?
I see it set to one or the other on my shots depending whether they were forward or back shots. But then the shots direction is still indicated primarily by the station names in the From and To columns. So I am not clear what this menu item does or when I might want or need to use it?
Footleg
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The direction used for the extended elevation is set by the ‘Flip’ command in the drawing context menu. This completely independent of the shot direction set by the ‘Shot ->’ command. Regards Beat From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Andrew Atkinson Sent: Sunday, 25 January, 2015 22:49 To: Therion Subject: Re: [Therion] Pocket Topo Shot Direction question I believe it is the direction used on the extended elevation (from memory) Andrew On 25 Jan 2015 21:41, "Footleg" <drfootleg@gmail.com> wrote: Can anyone tell me what the purpose/use is of the menu item in PocketTopo on the data screen which says either 'Shot ->' or 'Shot <-' ? I see it set to one or the other on my shots depending whether they were forward or back shots. But then the shots direction is still indicated primarily by the station names in the From and To columns. So I am not clear what this menu item does or when I might want or need to use it? Footleg _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion
Sorry mis-read original email, I was thinking of the < or > in the export Andrew On 25 Jan 2015 22:05, "Beat Heeb" <heeb@speleo.ch> wrote:
The direction used for the extended elevation is set by the ‘Flip’ command in the drawing context menu.
This completely independent of the shot direction set by the ‘Shot ->’ command.
Regards
Beat
*From:* therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Atkinson *Sent:* Sunday, 25 January, 2015 22:49 *To:* Therion *Subject:* Re: [Therion] Pocket Topo Shot Direction question
I believe it is the direction used on the extended elevation (from memory)
Andrew
On 25 Jan 2015 21:41, "Footleg" <drfootleg@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the purpose/use is of the menu item in PocketTopo on the data screen which says either 'Shot ->' or 'Shot <-' ?
I see it set to one or the other on my shots depending whether they were forward or back shots. But then the shots direction is still indicated primarily by the station names in the From and To columns. So I am not clear what this menu item does or when I might want or need to use it?
Footleg
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Thanks. So I think I may have suspected that this option was the cause of the problem I was investigating. But it sounds like it is not related. What I am actually trying to work out is what is causing the text export file from a PocketTopo survey someone sent me to include a < character between the trip number [1] and the comment in double quotes. I've not seen this in any text files exported before, and I need to know what it indicates so I can update the parser in my cave converter program. Footleg On 25 Jan 2015 22:05, "Beat Heeb" <heeb@speleo.ch> wrote:
The direction used for the extended elevation is set by the ‘Flip’ command in the drawing context menu.
This completely independent of the shot direction set by the ‘Shot ->’ command.
Regards
Beat
*From:* therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Atkinson *Sent:* Sunday, 25 January, 2015 22:49 *To:* Therion *Subject:* Re: [Therion] Pocket Topo Shot Direction question
I believe it is the direction used on the extended elevation (from memory)
Andrew
On 25 Jan 2015 21:41, "Footleg" <drfootleg@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the purpose/use is of the menu item in PocketTopo on the data screen which says either 'Shot ->' or 'Shot <-' ?
I see it set to one or the other on my shots depending whether they were forward or back shots. But then the shots direction is still indicated primarily by the station names in the From and To columns. So I am not clear what this menu item does or when I might want or need to use it?
Footleg
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Typical situation one may use this feature is when a station is inaccessible. So you measure from station A to station B in normal direction. And from station C to B next shot. You may manually change the order of stations from B->C to C->B. But you should do it three times. Much easier is to use reverse shot function. M. Odesláno z iPhonu 26. 1. 2015 v 0:05, Footleg <drfootleg@gmail.com>:
Thanks. So I think I may have suspected that this option was the cause of the problem I was investigating. But it sounds like it is not related. What I am actually trying to work out is what is causing the text export file from a PocketTopo survey someone sent me to include a < character between the trip number [1] and the comment in double quotes. I've not seen this in any text files exported before, and I need to know what it indicates so I can update the parser in my cave converter program.
Footleg
On 25 Jan 2015 22:05, "Beat Heeb" <heeb@speleo.ch> wrote:
The direction used for the extended elevation is set by the ‘Flip’ command in the drawing context menu.
This completely independent of the shot direction set by the ‘Shot ->’ command.
Regards
Beat
From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Andrew Atkinson Sent: Sunday, 25 January, 2015 22:49 To: Therion Subject: Re: [Therion] Pocket Topo Shot Direction question
I believe it is the direction used on the extended elevation (from memory)
Andrew
On 25 Jan 2015 21:41, "Footleg" <drfootleg@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the purpose/use is of the menu item in PocketTopo on the data screen which says either 'Shot ->' or 'Shot <-' ?
I see it set to one or the other on my shots depending whether they were forward or back shots. But then the shots direction is still indicated primarily by the station names in the From and To columns. So I am not clear what this menu item does or when I might want or need to use it?
Footleg
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The ‘<’ character after the trip number means the extended elevation runs to the left. Without the character it runs to the right. Regards Beat From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Footleg Sent: Monday, 26 January, 2015 00:05 To: List for Therion users Subject: Re: [Therion] Pocket Topo Shot Direction question Thanks. So I think I may have suspected that this option was the cause of the problem I was investigating. But it sounds like it is not related. What I am actually trying to work out is what is causing the text export file from a PocketTopo survey someone sent me to include a < character between the trip number [1] and the comment in double quotes. I've not seen this in any text files exported before, and I need to know what it indicates so I can update the parser in my cave converter program. Footleg On 25 Jan 2015 22:05, "Beat Heeb" <heeb@speleo.ch> wrote: The direction used for the extended elevation is set by the ‘Flip’ command in the drawing context menu. This completely independent of the shot direction set by the ‘Shot ->’ command. Regards Beat From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Andrew Atkinson Sent: Sunday, 25 January, 2015 22:49 To: Therion Subject: Re: [Therion] Pocket Topo Shot Direction question I believe it is the direction used on the extended elevation (from memory) Andrew On 25 Jan 2015 21:41, "Footleg" <drfootleg@gmail.com> wrote: Can anyone tell me what the purpose/use is of the menu item in PocketTopo on the data screen which says either 'Shot ->' or 'Shot <-' ? I see it set to one or the other on my shots depending whether they were forward or back shots. But then the shots direction is still indicated primarily by the station names in the From and To columns. So I am not clear what this menu item does or when I might want or need to use it? Footleg _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion
Thank you Beat. That explains why I have never seen it in my data. I have not yet flipped an extended elevation in PocketTopo. Now I can update my cave converter to handle text export files with these characters knowing what they are for. I had an enquiry as to what this converter tool was I an talking about. Details can be found here for those who are interested: http://wscc.darkgem.com/caveconverter/ Footleg On 26 January 2015 at 15:19, Beat Heeb <heeb@speleo.ch> wrote:
The ‘<’ character after the trip number means the extended elevation runs to the left.
Without the character it runs to the right.
Regards
Beat
*From:* therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] *On Behalf Of *Footleg *Sent:* Monday, 26 January, 2015 00:05 *To:* List for Therion users *Subject:* Re: [Therion] Pocket Topo Shot Direction question
Thanks. So I think I may have suspected that this option was the cause of the problem I was investigating. But it sounds like it is not related. What I am actually trying to work out is what is causing the text export file from a PocketTopo survey someone sent me to include a < character between the trip number [1] and the comment in double quotes. I've not seen this in any text files exported before, and I need to know what it indicates so I can update the parser in my cave converter program.
Footleg
On 25 Jan 2015 22:05, "Beat Heeb" <heeb@speleo.ch> wrote:
The direction used for the extended elevation is set by the ‘Flip’ command in the drawing context menu.
This completely independent of the shot direction set by the ‘Shot ->’ command.
Regards
Beat
*From:* therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Atkinson *Sent:* Sunday, 25 January, 2015 22:49 *To:* Therion *Subject:* Re: [Therion] Pocket Topo Shot Direction question
I believe it is the direction used on the extended elevation (from memory)
Andrew
On 25 Jan 2015 21:41, "Footleg" <drfootleg@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the purpose/use is of the menu item in PocketTopo on the data screen which says either 'Shot ->' or 'Shot <-' ?
I see it set to one or the other on my shots depending whether they were forward or back shots. But then the shots direction is still indicated primarily by the station names in the From and To columns. So I am not clear what this menu item does or when I might want or need to use it?
Footleg
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Hi Footleg The command has two meanings depending on what kind of data it is used: If used on a simple measurement from the current station (7.7 -> , if the current station is 7.7), it turns the measurement into a survey shot using the next station name (7.7 -> 7.8). If used on a survey shot (7.7 -> 7.8) it swaps the station names (to 7.8 -> 7.7). This reverses the direction of the shot. The direction shown in the menu (Shot -> or Shot <-) indicates the new direction used. It depends on the ‘Reverse’ option when used on a simple measurement and on the current direction when used on a shot. So it is used 1) to turn a measurement into a shot if you do not want to make three measurements for some reason, and 2) if you occasionally measure a shot in the non-standard direction and quickly want to fix it. Regards Beat From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Footleg Sent: Sunday, 25 January, 2015 22:16 To: List for Therion users Subject: [Therion] Pocket Topo Shot Direction question Can anyone tell me what the purpose/use is of the menu item in PocketTopo on the data screen which says either 'Shot ->' or 'Shot <-' ? I see it set to one or the other on my shots depending whether they were forward or back shots. But then the shots direction is still indicated primarily by the station names in the From and To columns. So I am not clear what this menu item does or when I might want or need to use it? Footleg
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