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Re: [Therion] new symbol for therion : a hammer
by Bruce Mutton 08 Apr '08

08 Apr '08

To respond to the second part of my own post (repeated below). I see the set of samples, "q-marks" that install with Therion prove that it IS possible to document continuations both in scraps and in survey data, and get output exported to pdf and to a continuation list. Very nice! I'll study it some more. I notice that the comments from the scrap input can be plotted to pdf via some meta post code. Is it possible to also plot comments to pdf that are input via survey data? That would make it truly versatile. Bruce _____ " And on a similar topic; When exporting a continuation list, I only get continuations listed that are entered in the survey data. Should it be possible to obtain continuations drawn in scraps, with Therion 'finding' the nearest survey station and survey title to report in the continuation list? Probably this would need a command within each survey and each scrap similar to the 'Walls [on/off/auto]' , but instead, 'Continuations [on/off/auto]', so that control over what is exported is maintained. "

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Re: [Therion] new symbol for therion : a hammer
by Bruce Mutton 08 Apr '08

08 Apr '08

Another thought. A dig is really just another type of possible continuation, so it should be added to the "Point passage ends" types (page 20 Therion book) And on a similar topic; When exporting a continuation list, I only get continuations listed that are entered in the survey data. Should it be possible to obtain continuations drawn in scraps, with Therion 'finding' the nearest survey station and survey title to report in the continuation list? Probably this would need a command within each survey and each scrap similar to the 'Walls [on/off/auto]' , but instead, 'Continuations [on/off/auto]', so that control over what is exported is maintained. Bruce

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using XVI as background image
by Jonathan Prouty 05 Apr '08

05 Apr '08

I'm using an XVI image as the background for a simple scrap. Loading the XVI works perfectly, defining stations using it works perfectly. However, once I close the .th2 file and reopen it, the XVI is offset relative to the scrap. I only generate the XVI image once at the very beginning. I don't regenerate it every time I compile. I've attached a screenshot which should be illustrative. -JP

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error - station point does not exist
by Roger Johansson 30 Mar '08

30 Mar '08

Hi! I'm a beginner in Therion so please be patient :) I'm drawing a fictious cave in order to learn how Therion works. So far I have managed to join two scraps from one .th2 file and surveydata from two .th files. The pdf-output didn't look too great however, since an underlaying passage isn't hidden when it crosses the upper passage. I figure this perhaps depends on that there was no station points in the scraps? But when I create station-points in my scraps (I have a xvi background so the station names are created automaticly) I can not compile anymore. I get an error: *********** D:\Therion\therion.exe: error -- karta1.th2 [11] -- station does not exist -- 3 ************ Pointing to this line in my th2 file: ************* point 150.385 330.105 station -name 3 ************** What am I missing here? Thanks in advance Roger Johansson No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release Date: 2008-03-29 17:02

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Editing svg therion results
by Xavier Pennec 22 Mar '08

22 Mar '08

Hi One of the things that I would like to do with the maps generated by Therion is embedding plans and elevations in a single document, especially for small caves, and rework on subparts of the plans and elevations to put some specific features into evidence for figures in a text explaining things about the cave (or in this case the mine). I thought that it would be easy with any svg editor, but apparently this is not the case at all. I can open and visualize the svg files produced by therion using inkscape, but I cannot degroup the drawing in order to edit some of the parts and, more importantly, importing the plan and the elevation in a single document lead to an incorrect result (see NaduelRD5_fuse.svg). It seems that there is a namespace problem: as both drawing refer to elements that have the same name, so that the definition of one of the drawing overwrite the definitions of the other. Does anybody have an idea of how to overcome that? Is there any other svg editor that behaves better (and which is not too expensive!)? By the way, it would be interesting to have a north arrow symbol that we can place wherever we want in a plan and not only a north arrow generated in the legend. That way, we could avoid using legends when needed (e.g. to fuse maps outside therion). Thanks Xavier

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list of symbols and Safari 3.1
by Martin Sluka 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

Last update of Safari (3.1) shows table of symbols correctly. m.

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therion on freebsd
by Alexander 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

Hello, I'm using a FreeBSD 7.0 box with gcc 4.2.1 and trying to compile therion.0.5.1. First problem encountered with extern/lxFile.cxx:725: error: 'getline' was not declared in this scope was solved with addition of #include "getline.h" string Next one encountered when linking: extern/proj4/libproj.a -s extern/lxFile.o(.text+0x2404): In function `lxFile::ImportPLT(char const*)': : undefined reference to `getline' *** Error code 1 Could you give me directions to solve trouble? Alexander

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Re: [Therion] therion notes
by Ladislav Blazek 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

http://search.cpan.org/dist/HTML-WikiConverter-DokuWiki/ HTML::WikiConverter::DokuWiki adds the DokuWiki dialect to HTML::WikiConverter allowing the conversion of HTML to DokuWiki markup. Usage: html2wiki --dialect DokuWiki input.html > output.wiki L. marco napsal(a): >> really nice documentation. What about migrate this to therion wiki > pages? > > i would like to have a wiki output filter, > but i never had enough motivations to put my head to it. > do you c++ ? > > marco > > -- Ladislav Blazek

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help needed with "layout" for an atlas
by Wolfgang Zillig 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

Hi, I'm trying to create a atlas layout for a cave. Some questions remain: - how can I align the map area to the left? The standards seems to be top,center - how can change the position of the "page indicator" (the 5 by 5 matrix of the surrounding pages), the "scale bar" and also the "page overview" - at the moment I only have centreline data but this is sometimes not nicely displayed, see attachement. - how to display the centreline in the "page indicator" or if not possible how to disable the "page indicator"? Many thanks so far. Wolfgang

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modelling a cave in 3D
by Jonathan Prouty 07 Mar '08

07 Mar '08

Hello All, I just stumbled across this website<http://research.gg.uwyo.edu/kincaid/3dcave.htm>and thought I would share with this list since I know some of you are actively developing software for modelling caves in 3D. In the 'Programming Codes <http://research.gg.uwyo.edu/kincaid/Modeling/Comp_codes/codes.htm>' section, the author makes available the MATLAB script he used to generate his models. The code is freely available and modifiable and seems to be fairly well commented. I doubt the code itself is all that useful, but perhaps the algorithms might be. Hopefully it isn't old-hat. At the very least, there are some pretty renderings! link: http://research.gg.uwyo.edu <tr_1204907058820>/kincaid/3dcave.htm <http://research.gg.uwyo.edu/kincaid/3dcave.htm> -Jonny -- ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ Take nothing but pictures, ^v^ Leave nothing but footprints, ^v^ Kill nothing but time. (**)

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