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map offset, why not scrap offset allowed
by Bruce 13 Jun '13

13 Jun '13

The Therion book 5.3.11 says, for map syntax, pg 31; if you refer to map, you can specify offset at which this sub-map will be displayed together with preview type of its original position. Syntax is following: <map reference> [<offset X> <offset Y> <units>] <above/below/none> If I specify a scrap to be offset instead of a map, no error is generated, but the scrap is not offset. Is it likely that one day soon we might be able to offset scraps, or is there a good reason why this should not be possible or desirable? If not, then perhaps a warning message should be generated to say that the scrap could not be generated. Regards

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Label point and Label line default text sizes
by Footleg 11 Jun '13

11 Jun '13

I just noticed that if I set text on a point of type Label, with the option -text "Water Rift" -scale xl and then set the same option on a line of type label, then I get different size labels on my PDF. Is this intended? I had assumed the scale options for text would generate the same size text whether I am placing it using a label or a line? Footleg

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Missing information in Survex 3d model output
by Footleg 03 Jun '13

03 Jun '13

Converting some Survex format data into Therion I discovered that despite entering the data in Therion, the Survex 3d model output from Therion is lacking some of the information which enables some of the most useful visualisation features in the Survex 'Aven' viewer. If I select 'Colour by Date' or 'Colour by Error' in Aven then none of my data appears to be counted as being in loops or having dates associated with it. Is this a known bug? Footleg

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ICS 2013 Brno
by Ladislav Blažek 30 May '13

30 May '13

Hi guys, anybody of you going to International Congress of Speleology 2013 in Brno? Maybe it will be good opportunity to meet and talk somewhere in Brno. And of course to taste Czech beer :-) L.

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Re: [Therion] ICS 2013 Brno
by Giorgio Pannuzzo 30 May '13

30 May '13

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Re: [Therion] Possible bug in elevation xvi (Dave Clucas)
by Graham Mullan 30 May '13

30 May '13

Is the problem just in the xvi file? Does your data generate a proper looking 3d file and/or lox file? Graham -- graham.mullan(a)coly.org.uk 0117 9502556 or 07887 637064 (or 0844 2327803)

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Re: [Therion] ICS 2013 Brno
by Giorgio Pannuzzo 30 May '13

30 May '13

I'll be at the congress. Still don't know which free day a could have, but i'm interested to some cave trip, if it's possible. Giorgio --------- Original Message -------- Da: List for Therion users <therion(a)speleo.sk> To: List for Therion users <therion(a)speleo.sk> Oggetto: Re: [Therion] ICS 2013 Brno Data: 30/05/13 09:48 -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Le tue email come raccomandate puoi spedirle con il servizio PEC di Email.it Attivala ora, il 30/6/2013 e' il termine ultimo per mettersi in regola secondo la normativa di legge Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=12828&d=20130530 -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Vuoi fare un regalo davvero originale? Su MisterCupido.com troverai centinaia di IDEE REGALO per tutte le tasche! Consegne in tutta Italia in soli 2-3 giorni Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=12387&d=30-5

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Possible bug in elevation xvi
by Dave Clucas 29 May '13

29 May '13

I drawing a map based on a survey originally done with Compass. I have used the data from the .dat file and put survey and centreline around it. The lengths are all in feet so I added units tape feet. I exported the plan xvi and drew the plan view around it. So far so good, everything looked fine but, when I came to draw the elevation, the xvi file was drawn correctly in the x axis but in the y axis the scale was wrong. It seems it is not converting the feet to metres. Dave Clucas daveclucas.com mycaves.org. daveclucas(a)icloud.com

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geographical reference is not associated with table bug
by Bruce 07 May '13

07 May '13

I have figured out what makes the difference between getting this warning and not getting this warning. If I do not select and surveys in the thconfig (thereby invoking the default behaviour to select them all) the list outputs are created with no warning. If I select some or all of the surveys, the warning is given and the list outputs are not (properly) created. So this would seem like a bug? Bruce _____ From: Bruce [mailto:bruce@tomo.co.nz] Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2013 5:55 p.m. To: 'List for Therion users' Subject: geographical reference is not associated with table Any ideas as to what is going on here? I have a collection of caves (survey centrelines only at this stage - no drawings and no maps defined at this stage) that are each in their own folder, and I can compile them individually, producing cave-lists in html and kml and many other outputs as well, including pdf's, and all is well. (Each of these caves is geo-referenced to the same coordinate system. I have defined the date in the line above the cs, and this is defined above the fixed stations, as in years gone by there have been issues when fixed stations are defined before the cs). When I step up to the parent folder that contains all of these caves, I combine them all with an index file that has a series of 'input' statements, and then compile them all as a group. Again I produce many types of outputs Occasionally the cave-lists are created, but for the last few hours I have been getting the warning. "warning -- geographical reference is not associated with table" It has been around from time to over the last week or so, but I am not sure what is causing it. I have not yet figured out what, if anything, I am changing to cause this behaviour. I have tried adding a centreline to the top level index file with a date and cs statement, but its presence makes no difference to the outcome. When I get this error, an empty html file is produced and no kml file is produced. An excerpt from the therion.log file looks like this. writing ./Output/ArthurSurveyList.html ... done writing ./Output/ArthurContinuations.html ... done writing ./Output/ArthurCaveList.html ... done writing ./Output/ArthurCaveList.kml ... D:\Program Files\Therion\therion.exe: warning -- geographical reference is not associated with table done processing projection plan ... done writing ./Output/ArthurPlan.pdf ... So why might therion SOMETIMES not be able to find the georeferenced fixed station information, for one type of output only, that is defined one level down? Therion 5.3.11 using Survex 1.2.4 to process the survey data. Thanks Bruce

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geographical reference is not associated with table
by Bruce 05 May '13

05 May '13

Any ideas as to what is going on here? I have a collection of caves (survey centrelines only at this stage - no drawings and no maps defined at this stage) that are each in their own folder, and I can compile them individually, producing cave-lists in html and kml and many other outputs as well, including pdf's, and all is well. (Each of these caves is geo-referenced to the same coordinate system. I have defined the date in the line above the cs, and this is defined above the fixed stations, as in years gone by there have been issues when fixed stations are defined before the cs). When I step up to the parent folder that contains all of these caves, I combine them all with an index file that has a series of 'input' statements, and then compile them all as a group. Again I produce many types of outputs Occasionally the cave-lists are created, but for the last few hours I have been getting the warning. "warning -- geographical reference is not associated with table" It has been around from time to over the last week or so, but I am not sure what is causing it. I have not yet figured out what, if anything, I am changing to cause this behaviour. I have tried adding a centreline to the top level index file with a date and cs statement, but its presence makes no difference to the outcome. When I get this error, an empty html file is produced and no kml file is produced. An excerpt from the therion.log file looks like this. writing ./Output/ArthurSurveyList.html ... done writing ./Output/ArthurContinuations.html ... done writing ./Output/ArthurCaveList.html ... done writing ./Output/ArthurCaveList.kml ... D:\Program Files\Therion\therion.exe: warning -- geographical reference is not associated with table done processing projection plan ... done writing ./Output/ArthurPlan.pdf ... So why might therion SOMETIMES not be able to find the georeferenced fixed station information, for one type of output only, that is defined one level down? Therion 5.3.11 using Survex 1.2.4 to process the survey data. Thanks Bruce

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