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sublime text build
by Ofir Shemesh 31 Aug '22

31 Aug '22

Hello, my name is Ofir Shemesh, caver from Israel. making my first steps in Therion. I'm trying to use Sublime Text <https://www.sublimetext.com/> to edit and *build *therion. wrote a simple custom builder according those instructions <https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/build_systems.html> looks like this: { "file_patterns": ["*thconfig*"], "cmd": ["C:/Users/admin/AppData/Local/Programs/Therion/therion.exe", "$file_name"], "working_dir": "$file_path" } It works! when i open thconfig and build it (tools - build) therion is running and works as expected, and i see therion output in sublime output window but... when i have an error, for some reason i don't see this error in sublime when i run from cmd I do see the error, but from inside sublime the error is not there see below an example, notice the missing error. any ideas why? and how to solve this problem? Thanks, Ofir Shemesh cmd: configuration file: thconfig.1 reading ... C:/Users/admin/AppData/Local/Programs/Therion/therion.exe: error -- thconfig.1 [7] -- unknown configuration command -- expojhvfgrt Press ENTER to exit! sublime output: configuration file: thconfig.1 reading ...Press ENTER to exit!

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Radiolocation Fixed Points
by Daniel Chailloux 25 Aug '22

25 Aug '22

Hi, We are facing a problem with Therion and fixed points obtained by radiolocation. This is the survey of a very long siphon taken with the SeaCraft ENC3 tool. There are many many stations saved automatically with the device. We fixed two points determined by radiolocation, one at the beginning of the siphon and another at the end. When after Therion compilatione, the survey is completely distorted. Doesn't the problem come from too many shots and Therion not being able to compensate for the very small shots? Have you encountered this problem before? Thanks for your help, -- Daniel Chailloux. _____________ Daniel Chailloux 17, avenue Gabrielle d’Estrées 91830 Le Coudray-Montceaux - France Mobile : +33 6 8290 7375 Email : danielchailloux(a)orange.fr

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filtering for export continuation-list
by A Gott 25 Aug '22

25 Aug '22

HI Therion friends, A friend posed an interesting question on a data set we hold in Therion. We have entered a lot of leads (point continuation's) in both elevation and plan th2 files. we have come to export these and have found that they are both coming out together, with neither being an exact copy of each other it's hard to tell them apart. *Is there any way you can filter the "export continuation-list" to only output plan continuations?* At present for a workaround, I have suggested exporting to .txt and copy and pasting into excel, so that the list can be filtered. is it possible to filter prior to export? (if not, would it be possible to include an extra column on the export to show which projection the continuation was noted in, eg. plan, extended, elevation [90] - so this can then be filtered in excel/a database). I note that even when using a select from the map structure, therion still defaults to looking at the full .th dataset. Regards, Alastair Gott.

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Export centerline and LR (plan) UD (section)
by Răzvan Dumbravă 22 Aug '22

22 Aug '22

Hello Is there any possibility to export (in any format) the centreline and the LR (for plan)? The data for centreline is units length metersunits compass clino degreesdata normal from to length compass clino 0 1 1.21 137.1 -12.8 1 2 8.75 33.3 1.8 and the data for LRUD is separate, like this: units left right up down metersdata dimensions station left right up down 25 1.23 16.71 16.71 1.4310 3.72 6.73 6.73 1.675 1.32 4.86 4.86 1.06 When i use export map -projection plan \ -output hhh.xvi It exports someting like this, with 2 LR in every station... Thanks! Răzvan Dumbravă razvid(a)yahoo.com

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statistics data in header for atlas survey
by Gilbert (liste) 18 Aug '22

18 Aug '22

hello, when I generate my survey in atlas mode, I have at the end a legend with all symbols, but not the complet header with the comments, and the cave statistics. Is it normal ? Did I need to add special options or commands in my specific layout ? Thanks Gilbert

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Loop in survey, how to split the extended view on a specific station ?
by Gilbert (liste) 06 Aug '22

06 Aug '22

Hello, On a cave, when you have a cave with gallery witch interconnect, and you do loops in your survey. For plan survey, no problems, but for extended view, you have to split on gallery or an other because the lenght of the 2 gallerys is not the same. Therion split automatically the extended survey (we can see it on the xvi file), but, can we tell the software in which point we want to split the survey ? can you change the split point ? where ? Thanks, Gilbert

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Altitude point in absolute AND relative in the same survey ?
by Gilbert (liste) 06 Aug '22

06 Aug '22

Hello, the altitude point is very usefull to set the altitude in the final survey. The altitude value is calculated with the Z value of the entrance Point and the depth survey of the station point. OK. But, in my final survey (pdf), can I have the absolute value (from the sea level) and the depht value (from the entrance) in the same time ? exemple : * the entrance of the cave is at altitude 1000m * my station point is at depth -100 I want to have the altitude value "-100" and "900 m" (from the sea level), on 2 specific altitude point, using and option, on the altitude point. Does it existe ? Is it a new issue to create ? Thanks Gilbert

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Label and passage height colours
by Paul Rowe 01 Aug '22

01 Aug '22

Is it possible to change the label and/or passage height colours for specific points? I couldn't see a way of doing this. Thanks, Paul Rowe

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Passage height values
by Bill Gee 28 Jul '22

28 Jul '22

I am working on a map where there is a long section of very low belly crawl. Most of the passage is between about 6 inches and 15 inches high. I would like to use values in the passage height symbols which reflect the height with a bit more accuracy than seems to be default. It appears that the passage height symbol will take any value, but for display it is rounded down. For example, "-value [0.5 ft]" becomes 0 when the map is compiled. [1 ft] becomes 1, as expected. [1.5] remains at 1. I tried specifying a value in centimeters as "-value [12 cm]" but that still came out as 0 on the compiled map. It did not produce an error - it just did not display as I wanted. With passage height values over about 3 or 4 feet the decimals are not all that important. In passage this low, however, the difference between 6 inches and 12 inches is the difference between not passable and passable. Therefore I think it is important to make the distinction. Is there a way to make the passage height symbol use the actual value provided? ======== Bill Gee

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Displaying some (not all) cross sections
by Bill Gee 28 Jul '22

28 Jul '22

I have an interesting question ... I am working on a map with a lot of cross sections. For some audiences such as other cavers and cave databases, I want all of them shown. For other audiences, displaying every cross section makes for a lot of clutter which does not really add to their understanding of the cave. A few cross sections are sufficient. Some time ago I found out how to exclude all cross sections from a map (symbol-hide group sections). Now I want to know if there is a way to make a map which has only some cross sections. And a related question - For many of these cross sections I had to draw an arrow to show which section line was associated with the scrap. Without the arrows, there is no way to clearly show which scrap goes with which section line. When I leave out cross sections, the arrows remain. Is there a way to designate the arrows as part of the "sections" group? Thanks! ======== Bill Gee

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