February 2008 - Therion

Editing svg therion results
by Xavier Pennec 22 Mar '08

22 Mar '08

Hi One of the things that I would like to do with the maps generated by Therion is embedding plans and elevations in a single document, especially for small caves, and rework on subparts of the plans and elevations to put some specific features into evidence for figures in a text explaining things about the cave (or in this case the mine). I thought that it would be easy with any svg editor, but apparently this is not the case at all. I can open and visualize the svg files produced by therion using inkscape, but I cannot degroup the drawing in order to edit some of the parts and, more importantly, importing the plan and the elevation in a single document lead to an incorrect result (see NaduelRD5_fuse.svg). It seems that there is a namespace problem: as both drawing refer to elements that have the same name, so that the definition of one of the drawing overwrite the definitions of the other. Does anybody have an idea of how to overcome that? Is there any other svg editor that behaves better (and which is not too expensive!)? By the way, it would be interesting to have a north arrow symbol that we can place wherever we want in a plan and not only a north arrow generated in the legend. That way, we could avoid using legends when needed (e.g. to fuse maps outside therion). Thanks Xavier

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Re: [Therion] therion notes
by Ladislav Blazek 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

http://search.cpan.org/dist/HTML-WikiConverter-DokuWiki/ HTML::WikiConverter::DokuWiki adds the DokuWiki dialect to HTML::WikiConverter allowing the conversion of HTML to DokuWiki markup. Usage: html2wiki --dialect DokuWiki input.html > output.wiki L. marco napsal(a): >> really nice documentation. What about migrate this to therion wiki > pages? > > i would like to have a wiki output filter, > but i never had enough motivations to put my head to it. > do you c++ ? > > marco > > -- Ladislav Blazek

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vi
by Michael Lake 03 Mar '08

03 Mar '08

Hi all > is anyone using vi to write therion files ? > marco Yep, My wife Jill uses vim to edit her Therion files and I use gvim. Mike Lake

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Re: [Therion] vi
by Michael Lake 28 Feb '08

28 Feb '08

Hi all On 28.2.2008, at 7:52, Michael Lake wrote: > My wife Jill uses vim to edit her Therion files Martin asked light heartedly .... > Just for fun, is here any other lady which use therion or Jill is > only one? She also uses ed! She is a sys admin and thinks therion is really nice :-) We will eventually get around to putting up a map of the cave on a web site. At present we just have a small entry on your Wiki (Fig Tree Cave, Wombeyan). Mike & Jill

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vi
by marco corvi 27 Feb '08

27 Feb '08

hi, is anyone using vi to write therion files ? marco

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Size of Drawing Area?
by Bruce Mutton 25 Feb '08

25 Feb '08

Hi all The area of one of my scans (actually a composite of multiple scan files) exceeds the area of the 'white space' in the drawing editor, and at 100% zoom and greater I cannot always access this outer area for drawing. (I have not experimented too much, because I think one of you will be able to answer this easily) I have a very complex, single layer, part of a cave that is surrounded by about five simple passages that intersect it, so I want it to be one scrap. Are there any restrictions on drawing outside the 'white space' other that not being able to view it at higher magnifications? For example, will Therion clip the scrap to these borders? And if there is a problem, what is the best solution(s)? Two or more scraps? Scan at lower resolution? Stitch scans together before loading into the drawing editor? Other ideas? Regards Bruce Mutton

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Therion 0.5.1 in Debian Testing
by Wookey 20 Feb '08

20 Feb '08

Therion 0.5.1 has finally migrated into Debian Testing (after a month's delay due to build problems on sparc). I will now upload v0.5.2, which will hopefully migrate a bit faster. As ever feedback on the Debian packaging is very welcome. Wookey -- Principal hats: Balloonz - Toby Churchill - Aleph One - Debian http://wookware.org/

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easyer to handle?
by Stefan Oswald 19 Feb '08

19 Feb '08

Hi together, We draw on therion in our caving club, but we have a few problems, which i want to report to you, we also have made a little "brainstorming"... It is always very difficult to introduce new people, no software engineers, into therion, also i had great problems. The map editor user interface gives many options, but thereby it is not really easy to handle, the same with the layout. It is difficult to produce a good looking plan-layout with text and so on. A generall icon-interface, such as most leading CAD programmes use would be much more efficient in our opinion. Is this planed in final version? In Therion you draw something and you do not know what it will exactly look like. For handling the Programm it would be easyer if you could immediately see the result without pressing F9, opening the .pdf, take a look at the result, close it again (Windows) and return to therion. just an idea. Also showing other scraps (.th2 files) in map editor, as with CAD for Cavers (Autocad) would be an option. To abstract we mean placing focus on usability would make it easyer for many people using therion, not only in our club. Glück Tief from stefan and the Höhlenbären caving club

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FOSDEM 2008
by David A. Riggs 18 Feb '08

18 Feb '08

Will there be any Therion/Survex developers or users at FOSDEM [1] this weekend? Care to meet up and talk caving, surveying, geeking, etc. - perhaps at the beer event on Friday night? I'll be flying in to Brussels from the US and will be in the general area for 10 days. I don't plan on bringing much gear, but I don't think I can go 10 days without being underground! Perhaps someone would be interested in caving after the conference... Dave Riggs NSS 56189 Morgantown, WV, US [1] http://fosdem.org/2008/ -- David A. Riggs <david.a.riggs(a)gmail.com>

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Re: [Therion] easyer to handle?
by Stefan Oswald 13 Feb '08

13 Feb '08

Hi, thanks for discussion, thats what we wantet to start. To be accurate CAD for cavers was the reason, why we startet discussion in our club. We just were impressed by the workflow of CAD for cavers which is much more intuitive, although we had our problems too;-) In fact an easier user interface would bring terion, definitely outstanding in functions and "principe", to much more people! Maybe I can motivate other caving software engineers in this thread to work on it... Glück Tief, Stefan

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