February 2005 - Therion

New snapshot
by Stacho Mudrak 18 Feb '05

18 Feb '05

There is a new developement snapshot on the web with following changes: + Import bug removed - now .3d files are imported correctly with entire survey structure. + XTherion CZ translation added. + Improved spanish translation. S.

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Segfault when including survey data in plan
by Wookey 17 Feb '05

17 Feb '05

I noted the bit in the map defiition which says I can can include names of surveys in the map command so that the centrelines are drawn. I tried this with the terikan survey and therion just says 'error' in the compiler and doesn't say what. Running Therion standalone shows that it is segfaulting. You should be able to demonstrate this with the dataset I uploaded last night. Comment out the join soundrivercrab_s1 soundriver2_s1 line so it runs,then add the name of a survey (I tried 'river' and 'goon') to theend of the scrap list. Now it crashes. I noticed the bit about -projection being required 'if the map contains survey', but adding "-projection plan" to the map command didn't help. This looks like a bug. And is there some subtlty about adding surveys (centrelines) to maps? Wookey -- Aleph One Ltd, Bottisham, CAMBRIDGE, CB5 9BA, UK Tel +44 (0) 1223 811679 work: http://www.aleph1.co.uk/ play: http://www.chaos.org.uk/~wookey/

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Wiki
by Ladislav Blazek 17 Feb '05

17 Feb '05

Wiki version of therion book updated to version 0.3.6 --- Lada Blazek

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xtherion i18n
by Stacho Mudrak 17 Feb '05

17 Feb '05

OK, after studying TclTk manuals a little bit, i18n is already there - no additional packages are needed. All I need to do is to replace each string with [mc <original string>] and define .msg files for each language. With your list of translated strings, it can be done very fast. I will try to do it before weekend starts. Regards, S. -=x=- Skontrolované antivírovým programom NOD32

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translating types
by Roman Muñoz 16 Feb '05

16 Feb '05

Hi, translating projection, point, line and area types does not work; when compiling, it complains about this. However, types are important items to translate. I'm on a hurry, because the planned stage is coming, and I've heard about "using AutoCAD", which is for me a big no-no-no. I think I could change this, but I would need translate types as fast as possible. What could I do to get types translated and working? Thanks, Roman

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flowstone area needed
by Wookey 14 Feb '05

14 Feb '05

I have a few large areas of flowstone. Defining an area of this type would be good. The only problem is that it really needs some kind of 'directioal' elements so that the flow sysmbols show the correct direction. Still, that could ome later - just having the area would do for now. Wookey -- Aleph One Ltd, Bottisham, CAMBRIDGE, CB5 9BA, UK Tel +44 (0) 1223 811679 work: http://www.aleph1.co.uk/ play: http://www.chaos.org.uk/~wookey/

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problem importing .3d file
by Wookey 09 Feb '05

09 Feb '05

OK - I'm trying to use the new import feature in 0.3.6. I'm not sure how the namespace hierarchy works. I have a survex dataset where everything is under terikan so we have major surveys terikan.goon terikan.eagle terikan.eagle2 terikan.elevator terikan.evening etc The .th file looks like: ------ survey tmp import terikan.3d survey terikan -title "Terikan River Caves" -declination [0.511 degrees] map elevatorplan -title "Terikan River Cave: Elevator entrance" goon_s3 break goon_s1 etc... input goon.th2 input soundriver.th2 etc... -------- This fails with: reading source files ... done preprocessing database ... done therion: error -- terikan/terikan.th [3] -- station doesn't exist -- eagle2.15 This is odd because there is no mention of eagle2 in any of the files in this dir. I'm not sure why it gets mentioned. The error is referencing the "import" line. If I comment out everything apart from the import line then the processing completes without error. Adding an empty file that continas nothing more than survey terikan endsurvey terikan will make it break again (same error). Changing the survey name to survey goon endsurvey goon Processes fine. Changing it to survey goon input goon.th2 endsurvey goon Now gives the error: therion: error -- terikan/goon.th2 [10] -- survey does not exist -- goon -- invalid station reference -- 69@goon (see below) Now going back to the original file and moving the input command inside the 'survey terikan' context: ------ survey terikan -title "Terikan River Caves" -declination [0.511 degrees] import terikan.3d map elevatorplan -title "Terikan River Cave: Elevator entrance" goon_s3 ... ------ I get a different error, having got rather further: reading source files ... done preprocessing database ... done scanning centreline tree ... done searching for centerline loops ... done calculating station coordinates ... done calculating basic statistics ... done processing references ... therion: error -- terikan/goon.th2 [10] -- survey does not exist -- goon -- invalid station reference -- 69@goon This suggests that the correct level to import things is inside a survey of the same name as the top level of the .3d file - correct? terikan.goon.69 is a valid station. It is the fiurst station mentioned in the first .th2 file read in. This suggests that it hasn't been read at the right level? Changing to put another .th2 file first changes the error to refer to the first station in that file instead. I'm confused - how should this feature be used? Is there a bug, or am I just doing it wrong? Wookey -- Aleph One Ltd, Bottisham, CAMBRIDGE, CB5 9BA, UK Tel +44 (0) 1223 811679 work: http://www.aleph1.co.uk/ play: http://www.chaos.org.uk/~wookey/

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translation on therion wiki
by Roman Muñoz 07 Feb '05

07 Feb '05

Hi again, translation stuff is on the wiki now (Tips and tricks page) Regards, Roman

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translation
by Roman Muñoz 07 Feb '05

07 Feb '05

Hi all, I have translated 0.3.6's user interface to spanish. You'll find a file with strings on http://www.infonegocio.com/tatel/ If you are on *nix, and want to translate therion to your own language as soon as posible, you could use translate.sh, wich is not more than a collection of awk and sed commands. Of course you need to edit strings first ;-) Cheers

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Picts of projects made in therion
by Martin Sluka 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

Dear friends, we are looking to write an article about therion - main part of article should be the realised surveying projects made with help of therion. May you help us and if possible to send picts (PDFs) - of your maps? Only outlines and headers and a few details -localisation (country, region), part of which project is particular map, length, maybe interesting detail of map. You may use next layout settings for the whole map: scale 1 1000 color map-fg 70 color map-bg 100 symbol-hide group all symbol-show line wall transparency on opacity 70 All maps will be published from bitmaps. TIA Martin Sluka --

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