May 2016 - Therion

A couple of Therion updates: KML and line-rope
by Владимир Георгиев 13 May '16

13 May '16

Hi Here are a couple of updates I did, which might be useful to someone. 1) KML model and map export. When exporting a KML it always got a title of "Therion KML", which made it harder to navigate when several files are opened in Google Earth. I updated the title to contain the survey title in whatever language is selected for the export. The description contains the length and depth for the cave. 2) I wanted to use a rope line, but the existing symbol for it was hidden and not completely finished. I used the existing metapost, which displays the rope very nicely, with a couple of additions. You can control whether the rebelay rope loops are shown with the option "-rebelays on/off" and the anchor points with "-anchors on/off" The line handrail looked very similar to rope, so I changed the little dots to squares. Attached are the code patches and a couple of screenshots. If someone recompiles and tests those I would be happy to hear the comments :) Vladimir

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Re: [Therion] A couple of Therion updates: KML and line-rope
by Bruce Mutton 13 May '16

13 May '16

Fantastic Vladimir I have been wishing for 'proper' kml titles for many years. If you are still enthusiastic then there are other outputs that need titles, html lists for one.Looking forward to when your recent patches are incorporated into the mainstream windows install files. Bruce Sent from my Samsung device, hence the typo's -------- Original message -------- From: Владимир Георгиев <vld.georgiev(a)gmail.com> Date: 13/05/2016 04:14 (GMT+12:00) To: TherionList <therion(a)speleo.sk> Subject: [Therion] A couple of Therion updates: KML and line-rope Hi Here are a couple of updates I did, which might be useful to someone. 1) KML model and map export. When exporting a KML it always got a title of "Therion KML", which made it harder to navigate when several files are opened in Google Earth. I updated the title to contain the survey title in whatever language is selected for the export. The description contains the length and depth for the cave. 2) I wanted to use a rope line, but the existing symbol for it was hidden and not completely finished. I used the existing metapost, which displays the rope very nicely, with a couple of additions. You can control whether the rebelay rope loops are shown with the option "-rebelays on/off" and the anchor points with "-anchors on/off" The line handrail looked very similar to rope, so I changed the little dots to squares. Attached are the code patches and a couple of screenshots. If someone recompiles and tests those I would be happy to hear the comments :) Vladimir

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export more than one map?
by Henry_Bennett＠Dell.com 12 May '16

12 May '16

Dell - Internal Use - Confidential Trying to export a survey that is primarily one system but also show the other smaller caves in the area. Easy to do in a single map but then the statistics reflect all the surveys. Is it possible to export to pdf multiple maps? Or is there a workaround? Such as telling therion to olnly pick up length and team from a specific branch? Thanks, Henry Bennett Dell Corporation Limited is registered in England and Wales. Company Registration Number: 2081369 Registered address: Dell House, The Boulevard, Cain Road, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG12 1LF, UK. Company details for other Dell UK entities can be found on www.dell.co.uk.

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Metapost snippets out-source-able from thconfig/layout?
by Christian Rößler (Roessler) 11 May '16

11 May '16

Hallo everybody, due to learning some metapost for making a Schacht (shaft?) symbol, I got a thconfig file getting really fat and difficult to maintain. Is there a possibility to source metapost snippets from another file? Neither 'source' nor 'input' (Handbook p. 15) seem to work, which does not wonder me as the context 'layout' has to be obeyed. So, how are the people here handling that? Big, fat thconfig, or is there another way? Best regards, Christian

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Line label: Line printable? Are walls printable as dotted/dashed lines?
by Christian Rößler (Roessler) 09 May '16

09 May '16

Hallo everyone, two questions: - I would like sometimes to draw an Erzgang (ore load? lode? mineral vein?) into a mine survey. The line type Label (Beschriftung) would fit into that bill nicely. Is it possible to draw the line along to the label? And it is possible to draw the line and keep the label text together (instead of being distributed along the whole line)? Well, or is there a better way? - Is it possible to mark a wall line to be printed dashed/dotted? I could not find any line options save id in the Therion handbook (p. 29). I would like to do that for wall types when I only guess the continuation of an adit. Or do I need to do metapost magic for that as eg. in http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.therion/2189 (search for dashed)? Thanks, and best regards, Christian

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Mining symbols?
by Christian Rößler (Roessler) 08 May '16

08 May '16

Hallo everyone, I remember faintly that some years ago, when I used Therion for a bit (but did not progress further as centreline output) there was a discussion about mining symbols for Therion. I lost these Mails; archive says 2007. I think this would broaden the applicability of Therion to mine explorers. Has, by any chance, work progressed in this field, as I could not find anything via web/wiki search? If not, how can I help? Are there other miners here who would like mining symbol sets, too? Until then, is there a possibility I can insert a free hand draw of, say, a shaft symbol (which would be more of an area)? Best regards, Christian

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Symbols without map editor, polygon line filling?
by Christian Rößler (Roessler) 08 May '16

08 May '16

Hallo everyone, just two questions, if you please, as it is sometimes not easy to find a negative ('cannot do') when searching through wiki pages and such. I have not mastered working with maps, so far; and I am unsure whether I need them at all. So I would like to know whether it is possible to do these things without them: First, I would like to know if I can get symbols like 'entrance' in the output: In a th-file (called per 'input', of course) I have written the entry |station 0 "Mundloch" entrance and in the thconfig-file: | symbol-show point station …but I cannot get them to show in the output pdf. Is that the wrong way, in principle? Second: The polygon draw leaves edges unfilled when two following, bending polygon lines (centrelines) meet. Can these edges be filled via interpolation or such? Best regards, Christian PS. As I do not want to flood the list with beginner questions, I would be happy if there is someone I could ask simple questions, perhaps via email?

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Re: Centerline: missing start lrud values? How to compensate?
by Martin Sluka 04 May '16

04 May '16

there are 3 ways how to enter LRUD data in Therion: 1. on "to" station data normal from to clino compass length left right up down 1 2 10 120 4 1 1 2 0 2. on both stations: data normal from to clino compass length left right up down 1 2 10 120 4 [0 1] [2 1] [1 2] [0 0] # [on_from on_to] 3. on station data normal from to clino compass length 1 2 10 120 4 data normal station left right up down 1 0 2 1 0 2 1 1 2 0 m.s. On May 03, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Christian Rößler (Roessler) <chr_rossi(a)kartan.de> wrote: Hallo everyone, I have another little problem: I am entering LRUD data of my last mine survey, and I am missing LRUD values of the start of a centerline (way too besmirched paper;). Now, missing values in between would not be such big of a problem, but how do I compensate for missing start values? For now I have entered 0/0/0/0, but that does not seem to be a good way. Best regards, Christian PS. By the way: I have installed a debian within a virtual machine to temporarily solve that Loch compiling problem. But this is uncomfortable, of course. _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion(a)speleo.sk http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion

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Centerline: missing start lrud values? How to compensate?
by Christian Rößler (Roessler) 03 May '16

03 May '16

Hallo everyone, I have another little problem: I am entering LRUD data of my last mine survey, and I am missing LRUD values of the start of a centerline (way too besmirched paper;). Now, missing values in between would not be such big of a problem, but how do I compensate for missing start values? For now I have entered 0/0/0/0, but that does not seem to be a good way. Best regards, Christian PS. By the way: I have installed a debian within a virtual machine to temporarily solve that Loch compiling problem. But this is uncomfortable, of course.

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White space along survey lines
by Michael 02 May '16

02 May '16

Hello, Can someone help me with following problem: Survey lines in sketches (not in scraps) bring a white "channel" with them. I.e., white space along the survey lines. The white space makes the sketch beneath partly invisible. See picture. It appears that the white "channel" is derived from LRUD data, because if I omit the LRUD data, the white channel disappears, the survey line displays nicely. I looked at the definitions of l_survey_cave_SKBB and l_survey_cave_UIS (which one is used for symbol set AUT?) but have no idea how to redefine them to ignore LRUD. Michael.

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