export more than one map?
Dell - Internal Use - Confidential Trying to export a survey that is primarily one system but also show the other smaller caves in the area. Easy to do in a single map but then the statistics reflect all the surveys. Is it possible to export to pdf multiple maps? Or is there a workaround? Such as telling therion to olnly pick up length and team from a specific branch? Thanks, Henry Bennett Dell Corporation Limited is registered in England and Wales. Company Registration Number: 2081369 Registered address: Dell House, The Boulevard, Cain Road, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG12 1LF, UK. Company details for other Dell UK entities can be found on www.dell.co.uk.
Henry Pg 31 of Therion Book. You can specify a survey when you define a map. If you do that then the reported map statistics are forced to match those of the survey. This would satisfy your second suggestion. Alternatively you could 'preview below' the 'other caves' and then their statistics will be automatically suppressed, and it would be clear what the statistics refer to. Bruce _____ From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Henry_Bennett@Dell.com Sent: Monday, 9 May 2016 6:51 p.m. To: therion@speleo.sk Subject: [Therion] export more than one map? Trying to export a survey that is primarily one system but also show the other smaller caves in the area. Easy to do in a single map but then the statistics reflect all the surveys. Is it possible to export to pdf multiple maps? Or is there a workaround? Such as telling therion to olnly pick up length and team from a specific branch? Thanks, Henry Bennett
Thanks Bruce, the "Survey" option in the MAP syntax is a really good place for me to start. Ultimately it would have been great if I could use a different layout file for different caves/surveys and then pull them all together in a single PDF. I thought that is what may be possible with this export map -projection plan \ -layout LayoutMapThisCave \ -layout LayoutMapThisCavePlan \ -output ../Output/MiddleEarthPlan.pdf http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/outputs However this just appears to work with a single declared MAP. In which case I'm struggling to see the usage case for this construct. What I'm looking for is a UNION command to join two or more SELECT statements. (or confirmation that this can't be done). From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: 09 May 2016 10:10 To: 'List for Therion users' <therion@speleo.sk> Subject: Re: [Therion] export more than one map? Henry Pg 31 of Therion Book. You can specify a survey when you define a map. If you do that then the reported map statistics are forced to match those of the survey. This would satisfy your second suggestion. Alternatively you could 'preview below' the 'other caves' and then their statistics will be automatically suppressed, and it would be clear what the statistics refer to. Bruce ________________________________ From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk<mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk> [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Henry_Bennett@Dell.com<mailto:Henry_Bennett@Dell.com> Sent: Monday, 9 May 2016 6:51 p.m. To: therion@speleo.sk<mailto:therion@speleo.sk> Subject: [Therion] export more than one map? Trying to export a survey that is primarily one system but also show the other smaller caves in the area. Easy to do in a single map but then the statistics reflect all the surveys. Is it possible to export to pdf multiple maps? Or is there a workaround? Such as telling therion to olnly pick up length and team from a specific branch? Thanks, Henry Bennett Dell Corporation Limited is registered in England and Wales. Company Registration Number: 2081369 Registered address: Dell House, The Boulevard, Cain Road, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG12 1LF, UK. Company details for other Dell UK entities can be found on www.dell.co.uk.
The problem is that thconfig reads all the file and interprets only last versions of commands or parameters. It is not the sequential interpreting. But you may export all your maps to PDFs separately and than put them together in other thconfig (or add them to last export of cave map): • map-image <x> <y> <n/s/e/w/ne/nw/se/sw/center> <filename> ◃ include image specified by <filename> into map at location specified by <x> <y>. For coordinates and alignment details, see map-header specification. (ThBook 2.3.16 page 53) You may use a script to make such complex queue of compilations (exports). m.s.
9. 5. 2016 v 21:23, Henry_Bennett@Dell.com:
Thanks Bruce, the “Survey” option in the MAP syntax is a really good place for me to start.
Ultimately it would have been great if I could use a different layout file for different caves/surveys and then pull them all together in a single PDF. I thought that is what may be possible with this
Hi Henry Both the suggestions that Martin has just made are good ones. Within a single th-config file, all select's are merged (as many as you want) to produce composite outputs. You can include any or all of 'model' and various 'projections' (plan, extended, elev 0 deg, elev 1 deg, elev 2 deg .elev 359 deg) and I generally do (but limit myself to no more than 3 elevation projections). The selections for one projection are of course never mixed with other projections. And so you would then export a map for each projection (from a single th-config file) And using Martin's technique you can get therion to insert a map of one projection into the map of another. Regarding my LayoutMapThisCave and LayoutMapThisCavePlan , LayoutMapThisCaveElev090 etc. This construct allows modular usage of layout statements, ensuring consistency across all th-config files, all maps for a cave system and avoiding need for typing the same layout statements in multiple places. Cave wide parameters are put in LayoutMapThisCave Projection specific parameters are put in the others (such as rotation, header content and header position). Bruce _____ From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Henry_Bennett@Dell.com Sent: Tuesday, 10 May 2016 7:24 a.m. To: therion@speleo.sk Subject: Re: [Therion] export more than one map? Thanks Bruce, the "Survey" option in the MAP syntax is a really good place for me to start. Ultimately it would have been great if I could use a different layout file for different caves/surveys and then pull them all together in a single PDF. I thought that is what may be possible with this export map -projection plan \ -layout LayoutMapThisCave \ -layout LayoutMapThisCavePlan \ -output ../Output/MiddleEarthPlan.pdf http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/outputs However this just appears to work with a single declared MAP. In which case I'm struggling to see the usage case for this construct. What I'm looking for is a UNION command to join two or more SELECT statements. (or confirmation that this can't be done). From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: 09 May 2016 10:10 To: 'List for Therion users' <therion@speleo.sk> Subject: Re: [Therion] export more than one map? Henry Pg 31 of Therion Book. You can specify a survey when you define a map. If you do that then the reported map statistics are forced to match those of the survey. This would satisfy your second suggestion. Alternatively you could 'preview below' the 'other caves' and then their statistics will be automatically suppressed, and it would be clear what the statistics refer to. Bruce _____ From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Henry_Bennett@Dell.com Sent: Monday, 9 May 2016 6:51 p.m. To: therion@speleo.sk Subject: [Therion] export more than one map? Trying to export a survey that is primarily one system but also show the other smaller caves in the area. Easy to do in a single map but then the statistics reflect all the surveys. Is it possible to export to pdf multiple maps? Or is there a workaround? Such as telling therion to olnly pick up length and team from a specific branch? Thanks, Henry Bennett Dell Corporation Limited is registered in England and Wales. Company Registration Number: 2081369 Registered address: Dell House, The Boulevard, Cain Road, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG12 1LF, UK. Company details for other Dell UK entities can be found on www.dell.co.uk.
Hi Martin and Bruce, I can see "map-image" being a useful way to handle merging PDF documents. Have been using it for jpgs but never realised that you could merge pdf surveys. Will take some thought around defining the coordinate systems space and getting alignment right but all the tools are there I believe. Still don't totally get the use of multiple layouts in a single export statement. Surely if you are using plan and elevation they would be different "maps". (or am I just being think? Wouldn't be the first time). Cheers (and many thanks), Henry From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: 10 May 2016 08:46 To: 'List for Therion users' <therion@speleo.sk> Subject: Re: [Therion] export more than one map? Hi Henry Both the suggestions that Martin has just made are good ones. Within a single th-config file, all select's are merged (as many as you want) to produce composite outputs. You can include any or all of 'model' and various 'projections' (plan, extended, elev 0 deg, elev 1 deg, elev 2 deg .elev 359 deg) and I generally do (but limit myself to no more than 3 elevation projections). The selections for one projection are of course never mixed with other projections. And so you would then export a map for each projection (from a single th-config file) And using Martin's technique you can get therion to insert a map of one projection into the map of another. Regarding my LayoutMapThisCave and LayoutMapThisCavePlan , LayoutMapThisCaveElev090 etc. This construct allows modular usage of layout statements, ensuring consistency across all th-config files, all maps for a cave system and avoiding need for typing the same layout statements in multiple places. Cave wide parameters are put in LayoutMapThisCave Projection specific parameters are put in the others (such as rotation, header content and header position). Bruce _____ From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk <mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk> [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Henry_Bennett@Dell.com <mailto:Henry_Bennett@Dell.com> Sent: Tuesday, 10 May 2016 7:24 a.m. To: therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk> Subject: Re: [Therion] export more than one map? Thanks Bruce, the "Survey" option in the MAP syntax is a really good place for me to start. Ultimately it would have been great if I could use a different layout file for different caves/surveys and then pull them all together in a single PDF. I thought that is what may be possible with this export map -projection plan \ -layout LayoutMapThisCave \ -layout LayoutMapThisCavePlan \ -output ../Output/MiddleEarthPlan.pdf http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/outputs However this just appears to work with a single declared MAP. In which case I'm struggling to see the usage case for this construct. What I'm looking for is a UNION command to join two or more SELECT statements. (or confirmation that this can't be done). From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk <mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk> [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: 09 May 2016 10:10 To: 'List for Therion users' <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk> > Subject: Re: [Therion] export more than one map? Henry Pg 31 of Therion Book. You can specify a survey when you define a map. If you do that then the reported map statistics are forced to match those of the survey. This would satisfy your second suggestion. Alternatively you could 'preview below' the 'other caves' and then their statistics will be automatically suppressed, and it would be clear what the statistics refer to. Bruce _____ From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk <mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk> [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Henry_Bennett@Dell.com <mailto:Henry_Bennett@Dell.com> Sent: Monday, 9 May 2016 6:51 p.m. To: therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk> Subject: [Therion] export more than one map? Trying to export a survey that is primarily one system but also show the other smaller caves in the area. Easy to do in a single map but then the statistics reflect all the surveys. Is it possible to export to pdf multiple maps? Or is there a workaround? Such as telling therion to olnly pick up length and team from a specific branch? Thanks, Henry Bennett
Henry, Christian also,
Still don't totally get the use of multiple layouts in a single export statement. Surely if you are using plan and elevation they would be different "maps". (or am I just being think? Wouldn't be the first time).
You can 'input' many layouts in one export and each layout can 'input' many layouts. See the examples in http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/bds#order_of_layout_functions_called And this one shows some layout templates I came up with ages ago http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/templates I think I have refined the ones I use these days. Perhaps I should finish and update the page one day. And yes, the plan and elevation are different maps. Therion will never mix up projection specific information, that is why you can reference and mix up many differing projection selects, map definitions and exports in one th-config file, and Therion will behave well and only include the relevant information in each exported output. Bruce
Anyway you may open as many as you need running copies of therion and compile map after map from different xtherions. m.s. On May 10, 2016, at 10:02 PM, Bruce <bruce@tomo.co.nz> wrote: Henry, Christian also,
Still don’t totally get the use of multiple layouts in a single export statement. Surely if you are using plan and elevation they would be different “maps”. (or am I just being think? Wouldn’t be the first time). You can ‘input’ many layouts in one export and each layout can ‘input’ many layouts. See the examples in http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/bds#order_of_layout_functions_called And this one shows some layout templates I came up with ages ago http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/templates I think I have refined the ones I use these days. Perhaps I should finish and update the page one day. And yes, the plan and elevation are different maps. Therion will never mix up projection specific information, that is why you can reference and mix up many differing projection selects, map definitions and exports in one th-config file, and Therion will behave well and only include the relevant information in each exported output. Bruce
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