November 2011 - Therion

Pitch that is larger at top than bottom
by Andrew Atkinson 25 Nov '11

25 Nov '11

Hi I have been trying to come up with a solution for the attached diagram. The pitch head is larger that the passage below, so if you turn off outline on the walls and put it on the pitch boundary, the fading goes but the parts where the pitch is on the outside of the passage take on the background colour so it does not look right. I have tied using invisible lines, or even tracing the walls to the survey above, but none of them look right, not sure if there is a solution, but suggestions welcome Andrew

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Changing outline on pitches breaks lox
by Andrew Atkinson 25 Nov '11

25 Nov '11

hello Just been changing the outline on a pitch so the bolders below look right on the pdf, by setting the bit of wall to outline none, clip off and the pitch boundary to outline out clip off, see p_before and p_after, the problem is that then the lox model also has a hole in it see l_before and l_after. I suspect this is bug/feature that is hard to get around? Andrew

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Scrap is too large to process in metapost in this scale
by Mihai Terente 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

Dear friends, I encountered the same problem and I was wondering if someone can figure a solution. I work with a morphed image on the background and the project compiles well with the scraps containing only walls. But if I add to the scrap a station point referenced to a survey (e.g. -name 2400@survey) I get the error. Any suggestion? Mihai T. Footleg drfootleg at gmail.com Wed Mar 9 18:29:08 CET 2011 My files illustrating the problem are my entire project at this stage! There are 2 .th2 files in there. The smaller one is the single scrap which works. The larger one is several scraps where only one is used in the map, and causes the error. Attached in zip. It is not very large so sending to the list. Footleg On 9 March 2011 15:33, Martin Budaj <m.budaj at gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes, I put in three stations, which are named to match stations in a > survex > > 3d file which is imported. > > Exactly the same scrap in a th2 file on it's own works fine. But when the > > other scraps which I am not yet using in the map are in the th2 file it > > fails with the errors given. > > > > I can email you the complete project files if you need them. > > Sure. Stripped files still producing this message would be better than > the complete project. > > Martin > _______________________________________________ > Therion mailing list > Therion at speleo.sk > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion >

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Therion legend and symbols
by Bruce 22 Nov '11

22 Nov '11

Hi I've just got interested in tweaking my legends and have some questions. 1 Removing legend entries ---------------------------------------- I notice that there is no legend entry for 'label' or 'remark', although there are entries for these in the texts.txt (5.3.8) file in the sources. This seems quite sensible to me, as it is generally self evident and no legend entry should be needed. I think that 'arrow' fits in the same category. It seems a bit redundant to have an entry for 'arrow' in the legend. Is there a way for the user to supress particular legend entries? I tried; text en "line arrow" "" to suppress the legend entry, but predictably enough all i got was an arrow with no label! (see the somewhat modified legend attached) 2 New area legend entries don't want to change ---------------------------------------- I tried to modify the new 'area flowstone' and 'area moonmilk' legend entries, but I get an error. There must be something different about them. eg text en "line wall:clay" "clay, mud" text en "area clay" "clay, mud" #text en "area flowstone" "flowstone" #text en "area moonmilk" "moonmilk" text en "point gradient" "gradient/slope" If I remove the #'s I get an error. My mistake or is there really something different about the new entries? 3 New entrance symbol ---------------------------------------- I'd like to change the entrance symbol from a filled triangle to, say, an omega symbol (as is already used for station with flag entrance). Has anyone come up with some metapost for this? Or another way of doing it? 4 Survey station with specific flags in legend ---------------------------------------- I notice that the legend is set up to display and differentiate survey stations with 'mark fixed, 'mark painted' etc but not to differentiate for flags such as entrance, doline, arch etc. Is it possible to include 'flagged' survey stations in the legend? Cheers Bruce

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Re: [Therion] vthreshold inefficient
by Giorgio Pannuzzo 22 Nov '11

22 Nov '11

The last time I checked it, many months ago, I encountered the opposite problem: no way to exclude vtrheshold, even with 90° value. This was a great problem for using old data collected in traditional way (only vertical up-down values). I'm going to check this as soon as possible. Giorgio --------- Original Message -------- Da: List for Therion users <therion(a)speleo.sk> To: therion(a)speleo.sk <therion(a)speleo.sk> Oggetto: [Therion] vthreshold inefficient Data: 31/08/11 16:15 -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Family Hotel Costa dei Pini Cervia, dal 3 all'11 Settembre 2 Bimbi Gratis, per soggiorni minimo di una settimana Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11774&d=20110831 -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Family Hotel Costa dei Pini Cervia, dal 3 all'11 Settembre 2 Bimbi Gratis, per soggiorni minimo di una settimana Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11774&d=31-8

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cs OSGB options
by John Stevens 20 Nov '11

20 Nov '11

I have had problems with this command if I am not working in areas ST or SN. (Mendip , west part of South Wales.) using cs OSGB:SO # (east part of South Wales) I get error ;- therion 5.3.9 initialization file: C:\Program Files (x86)\Therion/therion.ini reading ... done configuration file: thconfig reading ... done reading source files ... C:\Program Files (x86)\Therion\therion.exe: error -- gelynnen.th [10] -- unknown coordinate system -- OSGB:SO writing xtherion file ... done It runs 100km out if changed to cs OSGBT (read ST) or correctly positioned if using cs EPSG:27700 -calibrate [0 0 0 300000 200000 0] other 100km grids not working but checked, SV SU SS SM SO SP (SD SE NY NZ - Dales) Cheers John S

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Therion 5.3.9
by Stacho Mudrak 18 Nov '11

18 Nov '11

Hello everybody, I have just uploaded version 5.3.9, which includes mostly bugfixes. Here is a list of them: - added missing area flowstone and moonmilk into legend - fixed xvi export of extended elevation - fixed symbol-hide/show point remark bug - fixed wall:debris bug in AUT symbol set (thanks to Georg Pacher) - fixed layout color map-bg transparent bug - LRUD area dimensions is drawn for all shots before these shots are drawn (centerline is compact when map is exported from centerline only) - vthreshold should work now for loch LRUD modelling + added option -enable/disable splay-shots to 3d model export S.

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Grid and Label clipping
by Andrew Atkinson 16 Nov '11

16 Nov '11

Hello From reading the therion book, if I have the grid bottom should it not be clipped by labels so the attached should not happen. The text should be on top of the grid. and therefore the grid not be seen at this point. Label appear to clip the passage. thanks Andrew

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Cross section line error
by Andrew Atkinson 12 Nov '11

12 Nov '11

On returning from today's trip and duly settling down to draw up the survey I go the error below. Well it did not give me many clues, but eventually found the problem. I had drawn a cross section line, and then clicked closed, somehow, which gave a double line. (Having 3 points and closed does not seem to cause the error) Anyway, I was hoping that if I sent this maybe it would be possible to say in the error message what caused the error, even if it was only a line number from the th2 file, or the type of line, possibly it does and I jsut do not know how to read it. Luckily this is a small file so it was easy to delete things until it worked. Attached is the file with the error within it. It is the section line for section PalmersSX1.2, #################### end of cavern log file #################### done calculating basic statistics ... done processing extended elevation ... done processing references ... done selecting export objects ... done processing projection plan ... done average distortion: 0.09% writing Palmers.pdf ... processing projection none ... done ####################### metapost log file ######################## This is MetaPost, version 1.208 (kpathsea version 5.0.0) (mem=mpost 2011.10.19) 12 NOV 2011 18:46 **data.mp (./data.mp [4001] [4002] [4003] [4004] [4005] [4006] [4007] [4008] [4009] [4010 ] [4011] [4012] [1] [2] ! angle(0,0) is taken as zero. <for(0)> ...rotated.angle(thdir(Q,(EXPR0)))shifted (point(EXPR0)of.Q);pickup.... l_section->...(0.1u,0.55u);fi;exitif.pnt=-1;endfor ; l.5349 ),0,2) ; The `angle' between two identical points is undefined. I'm zeroing this one. Proceed, with fingers crossed. ! angle(0,0) is taken as zero. <for(2)> ...rotated.angle(thdir(Q,(EXPR0)))shifted (point(EXPR0)of.Q);pickup.... l_section->...(0.1u,0.55u);fi;exitif.pnt=-1;endfor ; l.5349 ),0,2) ; The `angle' between two identical points is undefined. I'm zeroing this one. Proceed, with fingers crossed. [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] (./mptextmp.mp) (./mptextmp.mp) (./mptextmp.mp) (./mptextmp.mp) (./mptextmp.mp) (./mptextmp.mp) [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] ) Here is how much of MetaPost's memory you used: 1019 strings out of 1162 12416 string characters out of 15838 60569 words of memory out of 3000000 1320 symbolic tokens out of 16384 9i,75n,12p,199b,4f stack positions out of 300i,84n,10000p,200b,15f 51 string compactions (moved 448697 characters, 36984 strings) 33 output files written: data.1 .. data.4012 #################### end of metapost log file #################### therion: error -- metapost exit code -- 512 writing xtherion file ... done therion: warning -- error deleting temporary directory -- /tmp/th4359

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Loch 5.3.8 not displaying models on Debian wheezy
by Andrew Atkinson 12 Nov '11

12 Nov '11

Hello all I started on this problem before the summer, but then I went away for a few weeks. But I am working on surveys again so I could really do with loch. (One plus from before the summer is that aven is upgraded to 1.2.2 and that now works again, so I am not completely blind) So trying to open a lox or 3d file in loch just gives a blank screen (grey to go with the border) Runing it from terminal does the same with no errors. Below is the useful information that aven gives you when you look at help Andrew Linux 3.0.0-1-amd64 x86_64 wxWidgets 2.8.10 (GTK+ >= 2.6) Display Depth: 24 bpp (colour) OpenGL 2.1.2 NVIDIA 275.28 NVIDIA Corporation GeForce 7300 GS/PCI/SSE2 GLX 1.4 R8G8B8 Max Texture size: 4096x4096 Max Viewport size: 4096x4096 Smooth Point Size 1.000-63.375 (granularity 0.125) Aliased point size 1.000-63.000 Double buffered: true GL_ARB_color_buffer_float GL_ARB_copy_buffer GL_ARB_depth_clamp GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_draw_buffers GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_framebuffer_object GL_ARB_half_float_pixel GL_ARB_half_float_vertex GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_map_buffer_range GL_ARB_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_occlusion_query GL_ARB_occlusion_query2 GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_provoking_vertex GL_ARB_robustness GL_ARB_sampler_objects GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects GL_ARB_shader_objects GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_shading_language_include GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_float GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_texture_rg GL_ARB_texture_swizzle GL_ARB_timer_query GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_array_bgra GL_ARB_vertex_array_object GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_ARB_window_pos GL_ATI_draw_buffers GL_ATI_texture_float GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_S3_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_Cg_shader GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test GL_EXT_direct_state_access GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample GL_EXT_framebuffer_object GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_provoking_vertex GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_shader_objects GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_two_side GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_compression_dxt1 GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_cube_map GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_format_BGRA8888 GL_EXT_texture_lod GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_texture_sRGB GL_EXT_texture_swizzle GL_EXT_timer_query GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra GL_EXT_x11_sync_object GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_KTX_buffer_region GL_NV_alpha_test GL_NV_blend_minmax GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_complex_primitives GL_NV_copy_depth_to_color GL_NV_depth_clamp GL_NV_fbo_color_attachments GL_NV_fence GL_NV_float_buffer GL_NV_fog_distance GL_NV_fragdepth GL_NV_fragment_program GL_NV_fragment_program_option GL_NV_fragment_program2 GL_NV_framebuffer_multisample_coverage GL_NV_half_float GL_NV_light_max_exponent GL_NV_multisample_filter_hint GL_NV_occlusion_query GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil GL_NV_pixel_data_range GL_NV_point_sprite GL_NV_primitive_restart GL_NV_register_combiners GL_NV_register_combiners2 GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_texture_barrier GL_NV_texture_compression_vtc GL_NV_texture_env_combine4 GL_NV_texture_expand_normal GL_NV_texture_lod_clamp GL_NV_texture_rectangle GL_NV_texture_shader GL_NV_texture_shader2 GL_NV_texture_shader3 GL_NV_vertex_array_range GL_NV_vertex_array_range2 GL_NV_vertex_program GL_NV_vertex_program1_1 GL_NV_vertex_program2 GL_NV_vertex_program2_option GL_NV_vertex_program3 GL_NVX_conditional_render GL_OES_depth24 GL_OES_depth32 GL_OES_depth_texture GL_OES_element_index_uint GL_OES_fbo_render_mipmap GL_OES_get_program_binary GL_OES_mapbuffer GL_OES_packed_depth_stencil GL_OES_rgb8_rgba8 GL_OES_standard_derivatives GL_OES_texture_3D GL_OES_texture_float GL_OES_texture_float_linear GL_OES_texture_half_float GL_OES_texture_half_float_linear GL_OES_texture_npot GL_OES_vertex_array_object GL_OES_vertex_half_float GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SGIX_depth_texture GL_SGIX_shadow GL_SUN_slice_accum

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