Changing outline on pitches breaks lox
hello Just been changing the outline on a pitch so the bolders below look right on the pdf, by setting the bit of wall to outline none, clip off and the pitch boundary to outline out clip off, see p_before and p_after, the problem is that then the lox model also has a hole in it see l_before and l_after. I suspect this is bug/feature that is hard to get around? Andrew
This is just one symptom of a drawing package that attempts to make many outputs from single (non-duplicate) inputs. Therion is not alone here. At some point there will always be limits to the versatility of outputs that can be achieved with a particular set of scraps. Another example is that it is hard to get maps with labels and symbols that look good at scales more than 2 orders of magnitude apart. Perhaps to solve the issue that Andrew describes a new area entity could be created. One that 'cleans' the passage interior colouring and makes it transparent. Would avoid using invisible walls and making holes in the loch model. It would still result in a 'holey' pdf map if we were displaying only the top passage and not the bottom passage in some maps. So, increasing complexity and decreasing returns. Sadly, at some point we need to decide "these are the types of output we have in mid for this dataset" and tailor our inputs to that end, thus compromising the ability to get other outputs/map arrangements/scales etc. Please, please prove me wrong somebody. Bruce -----Original Message----- From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Andrew Atkinson Sent: Friday, 25 November 2011 11:26 a.m. To: List for Therion users Subject: [Therion] Changing outline on pitches breaks lox hello Just been changing the outline on a pitch so the bolders below look right on the pdf, by setting the bit of wall to outline none, clip off and the pitch boundary to outline out clip off, see p_before and p_after, the problem is that then the lox model also has a hole in it see l_before and l_after. I suspect this is bug/feature that is hard to get around? Andrew
Having slept on this, one solution which would avoid areas would be -outline in/out/none - works for both model and 2D -2D in/out/none - sets the outline for 2D -3D in/out/none - sets the outline for 3D so -2D out -3D out is equivalent to -outline out Doesn't break what we have, just extends it, hopefully without over complication Andrew On 25/11/11 09:46, Bruce wrote:
This is just one symptom of a drawing package that attempts to make many outputs from single (non-duplicate) inputs. Therion is not alone here. At some point there will always be limits to the versatility of outputs that can be achieved with a particular set of scraps. Another example is that it is hard to get maps with labels and symbols that look good at scales more than 2 orders of magnitude apart.
Perhaps to solve the issue that Andrew describes a new area entity could be created. One that 'cleans' the passage interior colouring and makes it transparent. Would avoid using invisible walls and making holes in the loch model. It would still result in a 'holey' pdf map if we were displaying only the top passage and not the bottom passage in some maps.
So, increasing complexity and decreasing returns. Sadly, at some point we need to decide "these are the types of output we have in mid for this dataset" and tailor our inputs to that end, thus compromising the ability to get other outputs/map arrangements/scales etc.
Please, please prove me wrong somebody.
Bruce
-----Original Message----- From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Andrew Atkinson Sent: Friday, 25 November 2011 11:26 a.m. To: List for Therion users Subject: [Therion] Changing outline on pitches breaks lox
hello
Just been changing the outline on a pitch so the bolders below look right on the pdf, by setting the bit of wall to outline none, clip off and the pitch boundary to outline out clip off, see p_before and p_after, the problem is that then the lox model also has a hole in it see l_before and l_after.
I suspect this is bug/feature that is hard to get around?
Andrew
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