August 2009 - Therion

DistoX and PocketTopo with Therion
by Bruce Mutton 13 Apr '10

13 Apr '10

Hi there I have a Disto arriving hopefully in a few days, and looking ahead I've been tentatively trialling PocketTopo on my PC. I suspect therein lies my first problem. Perhaps it only has limited functionality on PC's? I can manually enter data, but I can not seem to draw passage outline. The Export Therion format does not seem to produce data in a format similar to what Therion normally accepts - after the data it produces some form of co-ords separated into plan and elevation partitions. Most of the survey stations are converted to 10 digit numbers and all of the keywords are in capitals. Much of the file content could be made Therion compatible relatively easily using a text editor, but surely this is not what is intended? Obviously there is something significant here that I am missing. Have searched about but have not found the solution yet. Does anyone have a small dataset that demonstrates the interaction between PocketTopo and Therion? Bruce

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Explored always zero in continuation list
by Bruce 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Have just noticed that 'explored lengths' are always reported as zero in continuation-list, They are correctly reported in caves-list and surveys-list. Bruce

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version 5.2.8 uploaded to Debian
by Wookey 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

I uploaded a 5.2.8-1 therion package to Debian last night. Feedback/bugs very welcome. Known issues: 1) texturing on loch has been turned off in order to let it run at all on Intel graphics cards. 2) The wiki snapshot is rather old (same as for 0.5.1 release) - can someone furnish me a new one? 3) My therion svn is broken so it's not checked in yet. Wookey -- Principal hats: iEndian - Balloonboard - Toby Churchill - Emdebian http://wookware.org/

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seperate layers for surface and sketch images
by Bruce Mutton 15 Sep '09

15 Sep '09

Hi again Getting back to the task of including our existing paper maps in our Therion datasets. We have a large cave, with the existing plans comprising more than 5 overlapping sheets, representing differing regions and levels of the cave. Is any progress planned on separating the sketches from the surface layer in pdf outputs? If so I'd like to put in a request for each sketch to have it's own unique layer, and to support the transparency feature already implemented for passages and the surface. Are there any issues related to this (other than large run durations and file sizes)? Bruce

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thattr.cxx
by Thomas Holder 15 Sep '09

15 Sep '09

Hi, two things: First, there is a newline print missing in thattr::export_kml: --- thattr.cxx.orig 2008-12-04 09:25:36.000000000 +0100 +++ thattr.cxx 2009-08-29 11:07:03.000000000 +0200 @@ -624,6 +624,7 @@ fprintf(f,"%s%s",hasone ? "\t" : "",value); hasone = true; } + fprintf(f,"\n"); } Second: Why is export_kml acutally the same as export_txt, but with extra lat-long columns? I found this while looking for a way to export cave-list with lat-long entrance coordinates, what seems not to be possible (no -layout-cs supported for export cave-list). Regards, Thomas

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[therion]Loch compiling on Mac OS X
by thierrygonon 31 Aug '09

31 Aug '09

Hi all, and specially Martin, I'm trying to compile loch on mac osx, so I have followed your step by step on the wiki. Compiling VTK goes without any problem... I've changed the loch Makefile in the way you present, but unfortunately, loch compilation failed ! I attach to the present message the log of loch compilation.... (NB : I'm running Mac OS X 10.4.11 on an Intel Core 2 Duo) Anyone can help ?? It's probably a dummy parameter that I have to change, but which one...? Thanks Thierry

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features - skills
by Martin Sluka 30 Aug '09

30 Aug '09

Therion means big wild furious creature. What is more correct then: "Therion’s basic features" or "Therion’s basic skills" I know computer program has features. But creature? :) m.s.

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FW: FW: Continuations Bug in 5.2.11
by Bruce 30 Aug '09

30 Aug '09

The problem is associated with the 'dig' flag when -filter off. The following line ran error free until I added the word 'dig'. station BEECH "Beech tree entrance drafting in" entrance \ continuation dig attr code "Needs exploration" \ explored 05m Cheer Bruce -----Original Message----- From: therion-bounces(a)speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Bruce Mutton Sent: Thursday, 27 August 2009 8:20 p.m. To: 'List for Therion users' Subject: Re: [Therion] FW: Continuations Bug in 5.2.11 Have forwarded a zipped up dataset to Stacho. The problematic parameter is -filter, but only with some datasets and not with others, and only in 5.2.11 For example the following line gives an error when filter is off, but not when filter is on. export continuation-list \ -attributes on \ -filter off \ -output ./Output/BeautifulBulmerSystem_Continuations.html Bruce

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offsets at different scales
by Bruce 27 Aug '09

27 Aug '09

My trusty Therion lackey Michael has been working on enlarged offsets to show greater detail in some locations, and came up with the process of exporting a map with the enlarged detail, then inserting the pdf created as a map-image as in the example below. Quite good lateral thinking I thought, but it lacks somewhat in precise control of where the image is inserted and connection points of course do not work. Does anyone have any alternative ideas for how to do this? Would offsets with a scale factor be an option for the future release? Bruce _____ From: Michael Brewer Sent: Saturday, 22 August 2009 3:03 p.m. To: bruce mutton Subject: offsets in therion hi bruce just trying to get my head around offsets or 'previews' they seem fairly straight forward if you want to offset a scrap or a map. I was interested in off setting a scrap but showing the scrap at a different scale - larger ie a blow up to show more detail - in this case the new campsite in upup and away. . michael

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FW: Continuations Bug in 5.2.11
by Bruce Mutton 27 Aug '09

27 Aug '09

I've noticed that emails sent to the forum from non-subscribed accounts are not distributed, so I'll try again. _____ From: Bruce [mailto:dangle@tomo.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, 15 August 2009 3:17 p.m. To: 'List for Therion users' Subject: Continuations Bug in 5.2.11 I seem to have found a problem associated somehow with continuations in 5.2.11, and all the output variations I have tried so far work fine, except the following, export continuation-list \ -attributes on \ -filter off \ -output ./Output/BeautifulBulmerSystem_Continuations.html I have been using it with 5.2.10 for some time with no problems. I suspect the above export may have been fine with 5.2.11 until I removed a continuation from a survey and added two continuation points to replace it, one in a plan scrap, and one in an elevation scrap. (I'm not sure about that - it may never have worked) Eg point 611.5 -495.25 continuation -text "Bruce M: 0.8m dia silt filled phreatic tube, medusa" -attr code "Needs Digging" -explored 40m Maybe I'm pushing the limits with an attr code with a text string? It has worked fine up until now. The attached log files may perhaps help, but perhaps not as much as the above information. Cheers Bruce

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