August 2017 - Therion

Doubled legend and cyrillic in metapost
by андрей коженков 15 Aug '17

15 Aug '17

Dear Therion users, I've got few issues with map header customization using metapost and tex code. 1. Then I am trying to move north arrow and legend somehere away from main map header using "\def\maplayout {\legendbox{5}{90}{NW}}" code the legend and norh arrow is printed twice. I'm sure I've made a mistake here but after few days of messing with the code result is still the same. 2. Then I use custom scalebar code from Therion wiki everything seem to work fine with latin text "Scale 1 : 100" but if I try to change this to cyrillic "Масштаб 1 : 100" compiling fails with: error -- metapost exit code -- 3 Is it something wrong with metapost installation or system variables or the fact that some encodings became an addon in recent version? I am using Therion 5.4.1 on Windows 7 x64. 3. Is there a way to define a custom point showing depth rather than altitude? Point "altitude" is using "thaltitude" or "thheight" variablles to get altitude value but can we use "thaltitude - cavemaxz" expression to calculate the tdepth? Or maybe there is some metapost code to define a depth-bar instead of altitude grid? I'm attaching the project. Any advice is much appreciated! P.S. sorry for Russian comments in the code... hope it will be more or less straightforward to understand. -- Thanks, Andrey

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Joining scraps and PDF layouts
by Steven Tucker 15 Aug '17

15 Aug '17

Hello, I am busy completing a survey of a cave and I am running into two problems with the final PDF First problem. There are water areas that cross over two scraps and the water is coloured blue. In the PDF file, the line where the two scraps join show a thin white line. The kml and loch files don't show any split between the joint scraps. Any idea how to fix this? Second problem. I would like to display the cave name, scalebar etc in one area of the PDF and have my legend in a seperate area of the PDF, but I can't figure out how to do this. Any help will be much appreciated! Thanks in advance, Steven

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Mud and clay
by Graham Mullan 14 Aug '17

14 Aug '17

Rob Countess wrote: " Well, in my mind, clay is a more specifically defined substance based on mineral content and particle size. Mud is larger particles, more organics, and less homogenous. Clay is what you make pots from and is less frequent in Canadian caves in my experience ..." Clay is something more of a technical term and means a sediment with particle sizes in the range 0.98–3.9 µm. This is finer than silt and much finer than sand. Mud, on the other hand is not a technical term being defined as a mixture of 'earth' or 'dirt' and water. It is difficult to think of a circumstance where a symbol for mud might be required that isn't covered by clay, silt or sand unless you are looking at fairly recently deposited material with a large organic component which might be better considered as 'flood debris' and possibly too ephemeral to mark on a map? Just my thoughts. Graham

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Line Colours in Map Editor with 5.4.1
by Nick Bairstow 14 Aug '17

14 Aug '17

That's better when using Pocket Topo. Thanks Footleg

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I can't start the Therion program
by Кунгурская лаборатория-стационар 14 Aug '17

14 Aug '17

Hi. I have installed the Therion program on Windows 7 X64. After start of the program the mistake jumps out and the program isn't started. What does the problem consist in? The screenshot of all mistake is in the attached file! Mistake: "cavern" не является внутренней или внешней командой... -- С уважением, Кунгурская лаборатория-стационар ГИ УрО РАН mailto:icecave@mi-perm.ru

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Line Colours in Map Editor with 5.4.1
by Footleg 12 Aug '17

12 Aug '17

Having finally got around to updating my install to 5.4.1 I was trying to work out how the line colours had appeared in the official builds (I'm on Windows). I see the ini file entries in both xtherion.ini and xtherion.new.ini, all commented out in both files. So I am assuming the colours are set by some hard coded defaults unless over ridden in the ini file? Why are there two ini files? Are they both used by the application? When this feature was first provided (via the email list) for testing, I commented that some of the default colours were not ideal from my experience. In particular the use of 'brown' for unselected walls in the active scrap is not so easy to tell from the red selected item. As users are already accustomed to the blue wall lines in the active scrap, I changed this one to blue. Rock borders look the same colour as survey legs and splays in background sketches brought in from PocketTopo, so I changed these to purple. So the only two changes I have to add into my ini file are: set xth(gui,me,wallcolor) blue set xth(gui,me,rockcolor) purple The blue walls work well with the blue controlfill because the control points only appear on selected lines, where the line is turned red. So this is not confused with blue wall lines which are not selected. I would like to propose these colours be made the defaults as I think it makes the editor easier to use, and I would like to reflect the default colours in the screenshots in my tutorial documents when I update them to reflect the latest release. Footleg

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Re: [Therion] warning -- equate used to define new station (Martin Sluka)
by Dave Clucas 03 Aug '17

03 Aug '17

> On 3 Aug 2017, at 11:00, therion-request(a)speleo.sk wrote: > > Isn’t the right time to make a developer conference of both clans together? Hidden Earth? :-) Dave Clucas dave.clucas(a)icloud.com <mailto:daveclucas@icloud.com> Exploring the World - One cave at a time

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warning -- equate used to define new station
by Vasily Vl. Suhachev 03 Aug '17

03 Aug '17

Hello Is there a way to suppress a warning about new station? I'm trying to simplify the stations binding such way: 1.th: equate Fixed@cave Fixed(a)some.path.at.cave 2.th: equate Fixed@cave Fixed(a)other.path.at.cave -- WBR, Vasily

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Re: [Therion] warning -- equate used to define new station
by Martin Sluka 02 Aug '17

02 Aug '17

It looks one may define a survey trip with only GPS coordinates of one or several points. Which may have its sense. m.s. On Aug 02, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Martin Sluka via Therion <therion(a)speleo.sk> wrote: This one works: survey x centerline fix 1 0 0 0 endcenterline endsurvey I thing it may be a solution for your problem. But I'm not sure what it will do in case of equates. m.s. On Aug 02, 2017, at 09:17 AM, "Vasily Vl. Suhachev via Therion" <therion(a)speleo.sk> wrote: Hi, Martin I'm trying to create synonym with short name for station defined in deep hierarchy of namespaces (in purpose for more readable sources) 02.08.2017 13:58, Martin Sluka via Therion пишет: Are you trying to create a survey with only one station with GPS coordinates? -- WBR, Vasily _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion(a)speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion(a)speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

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Re: [Therion] warning -- equate used to define new station
by Martin Sluka 02 Aug '17

02 Aug '17

This one works: survey x centerline fix 1 0 0 0 endcenterline endsurvey I thing it may be a solution for your problem. But I'm not sure what it will do in case of equates. m.s. On Aug 02, 2017, at 09:17 AM, "Vasily Vl. Suhachev via Therion" <therion(a)speleo.sk> wrote: Hi, Martin I'm trying to create synonym with short name for station defined in deep hierarchy of namespaces (in purpose for more readable sources) 02.08.2017 13:58, Martin Sluka via Therion пишет: Are you trying to create a survey with only one station with GPS coordinates? -- WBR, Vasily _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion(a)speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion

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