October 2013 - Therion

splay on an separate layer in a dxf file
by Dirk Peinelt 22 Oct '13

22 Oct '13

Hi, is it possible to sort splay shots in a dxf file on a separate layer? Like the centreline legs that marked with the surface flag. (centreline_surface Layer) Flag "splay" leave the splay beside the centreline legs on the same centreline layer.

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PocketTopo Trips
by Bruce 21 Oct '13

21 Oct '13

>It is possible to change the actual trip for previous legs >Hold down on a leg and click Trip... it will edit the trip information for that line and any others that are the same. Thanks Andrew, that is a great tip. The whole "Actual Trip" and "Trip" thing in PocketTopo has never made sense to me. I sort of figured it out when learning to use it by studying the exported file structure. Your comment has just made it fit into place for me. Bruce

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Topparser declination and projected elevations
by Bruce 21 Oct '13

21 Oct '13

I always leave the elevations to last. Have just discovered that Topparser is not working for me when it comes to producing projected elevations. Not sure if it is because; 1. Topparser is not using the declination from the top file to adjust bearings when it produces projected elevation xvi's, or 2. I have been too clever, and my habit of entering <decl correction> = declination + <therion plan rotation> in PocketTopo has got the better of me! I suspect number 2 is most likely as Andrew seems to have done a pretty good job. Either way, unless a field for 'plan rotation' is added to Topparser, projected elevations are not going to work for me. As on the http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/paperless page I have been following this approach (that I came up with). * PocketTopo stores the declination (and trip information like the date and the surveyors etc) that is set at the time a shot is received with that shot, and this association cannot be broken. If you subsequently change the declination (or other information), it only has effect for future shots. The declination is added to the compass bearing for the purpose of producing the sketch. So, if you enter an erroneous declination and take some shots, the drawing will be permanently skewed. * This effect can be used to advantage if you want to make sure the text in your 2D pdf maps will be aligned properly when the finished map is to be rotated. Enter a declination into PocketTopo that equals <declination> + <rotation>. The effect of this is to ensure that the xvi sketches produced will be oriented the same as the finished map, and so text -align variables will match the orientations of the finished map. The downside of this approach is that the coordinates of the stations stored in PocketTopo will be completely arbitrary. (So far I have not taken any notice of the coordinates in PocketTopo - if you accept this I don't think there are any other ramifications - but I might be wrong) Bruce

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Colour-preview above not able to be changed
by Bruce 19 Oct '13

19 Oct '13

Hi Does anyone have a work-around for the unresponsiveness of 'colour preview-above'? I can change the colour preview-below, both monotone, and, as in the example below, colour. However regardless of what I try, the colour preview-above is always black. In the example below, the preview-above outline should also be yellow-brown. Ideas? Bruce colour preview-below [97 86 38] #0 = black 100 = white colour preview-above [97 86 38] #0 = black 100 = white

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select / unselect export map with and without offset
by Bertrand Hauser 14 Oct '13

14 Oct '13

Hello, I don't understand the use of select/unselect. I want to produce 2 export : one map without offset, and another one with offset. So I have defined in my survey "caviteMEGEVETTE" the 2 maps : map planGeneral planSuperieur break planInferieur break endmap map planGeneralDecoupe planSuperieur break planInferieur [0 -100 m] below break endmap In my thconfig file, I specify : ### Plan en un seul morceau (no offset) select planGeneral@caviteMEGEVETTE export map -projection plan -o ../plan.pdf -layout mon_plan unselect planGeneral@caviteMEGEVETTE ### Ces lignes concernent un plan en 2 morceaux (with offset). select planGeneralDecoupe@caviteMEGEVETTE export map -projection plan -o ../planDecoupe.pdf -layout mon_plan_decoupe unselect planGeneralDecoupe@caviteMEGEVETTE But the first export have the offset map... I tried to add an unselect to all the id of map definition, but the result is still the same. The unique solution is to comment alternatively each block "select - export - unselect" and compile both separatively. What is the way to generate the both export in the same compilation ? Thanks, Bertrand

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3d Animation from Therion
by Bruce 13 Oct '13

13 Oct '13

Hi I have some people trying to create a high quality 3D animation from Therion surface and model data or outputs. They don't seem to be able to use Aven or Loch for their purposes. They need 'open 3D' obj files. They use Cinema4D, Maya and cd4. Any ideas to produce the 3D compatible raw files? Bruce

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Fw: Re: Re: Hardening flags cause build failure
by Wookey 11 Oct '13

11 Oct '13

There is a duff address in the therion mailing list. Every message to the list (that I send, and I presume it's the same for everyone else), gets this bounce. I think the duff address is jranaya(a)rentec.com ----- Forwarded message from postmaster(a)rentec.com ----- Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 00:46:27 -0400 From: postmaster(a)rentec.com To: wookey(a)wookware.org Subject: Re: Re: [Therion] Hardening flags cause build failure X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.5 tests=AWL,BAYES_40 autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Your message was addressed to a nonexistent recipient. >From therion-bounces(a)speleo.sk Fri Oct 11 00:46:27 2013 Received: from mx1-ny.rentec.com (ny-mirapoint1.rentec.com [172.28.240.26]) by pegasus.rentec.com (8.14.5/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r9B4kQSh017895 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for <jranaya(a)rentec.com>; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 00:46:26 -0400 X-Source: non-mednet Received: from outsider2.texxar.cz (EHLO outsider2.texxar.cz) ([212.96.160.162]) by mx1-ny.rentec.com (MOS 4.3.6-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AFO86491; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 00:46:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [212.96.160.162] (localhost [212.96.160.162]) by outsider2.texxar.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500D334C2ED; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 06:25:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-To: therion(a)speleo.sk Delivered-To: therion(a)outsider2.texxar.cz Received: from mail.tbhub.co.nz (mail.tbhub.co.nz [125.236.74.4]) by outsider2.texxar.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15D4634C251 for <therion(a)speleo.sk>; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 21:52:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mdrsrwhub01n1.sdproot.sdp.net.nz (10.241.66.228) by mail.tbhub.co.nz (10.241.66.37) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.137.0; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:14:02 +1300 Received: from JUICEBRAIN (10.241.70.132) by mail.telecombusinesshub.co.nz (10.241.66.236) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.137.0; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:14:01 +1300 From: Bruce <bruce(a)tomo.co.nz> To: "'List for Therion users'" <therion(a)speleo.sk> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:14:25 +1300 Message-ID: <DA08F1A1AAF6493A821A01E30709CAC6@JUICEBRAIN> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac7F9RR3W0wPmdzcTY2Pm8jH4dUQ5g== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Subject: [Therion] 3d Animation from Therion X-BeenThere: therion(a)speleo.sk X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: List for Therion users <therion(a)speleo.sk> List-Id: List for Therion users <therion.speleo.sk> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/options/therion>, <mailto:therion-request@speleo.sk?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://mailman.speleo.sk/pipermail/therion> List-Post: <mailto:therion@speleo.sk> List-Help: <mailto:therion-request@speleo.sk?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion>, <mailto:therion-request@speleo.sk?subject=subscribe> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0475204667==" Sender: therion-bounces(a)speleo.sk Errors-To: therion-bounces(a)speleo.sk X-Mirapoint-Received-SPF: 212.96.160.162 outsider2.texxar.cz therion-bounces(a)speleo.sk 5 none X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=10/50, refid=2.7.2:2013.10.6.34516:17:10.669, ip=212.96.160.162, rules=__HAS_FROM, FROM_NAME_ONE_WORD, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, INVALID_MSGID_NO_FQDN, __MIME_VERSION, __HAS_X_MAILER, __OUTLOOK_MUA_1, __USER_AGENT_MS_GENERIC, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __HAS_REPLYTO, __HAS_LIST_UNSUBSCRIBE, __HAS_LIST_HELP, __HAS_LIST_SUBSCRIBE, __CT, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY, __CTYPE_MULTIPART, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_MIXED, TO_IN_SUBJECT, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __INT_PROD_QUALITY, __CP_MEDIA_2_BODY, __HTML_MSWORD, __HTML_FONT_BLUE, __HAS_HTML, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_3000_3999, BODYTEXTH_SIZE_10000_LESS, __MIME_HTML, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML, __STYLE_RATWARE_NEG, __URI_NS, HTML_70_90, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, __OUTLOOK_MUA, __HAS_LIST_HEADER, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, REPLYTO_FROM_DIFF_ADDY, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mx1-ny.rentec.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A020207.525782A2.0049,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0, ip=212.96.160.162, so=2012-12-31 14:30:00, dmn=2013-04-19 10:07:54, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A020207.525782A2.0049,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0, ip=212.96.160.162, so=2012-12-31 14:30:00, dmn=2013-04-19 10:07:54 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 0361a52344106d63b5b97c1a9bffb476 X-Logged: Logged by pegasus.rentec.com as r9B4kQSh017895 at Fri Oct 11 00:46:26 2013 --===============0475204667== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01CEC662.4B5242E0" ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CEC662.4B5242E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I have some people trying to create a high quality 3D animation from Therion surface and model data or outputs. They don't seem to be able to use Aven or Loch for their purposes. They need 'open 3D' obj files. They use Cinema4D, Maya and cd4. Any ideas to produce the 3D compatible raw files? 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Hardening flags cause build failure
by Wookey 11 Oct '13

11 Oct '13

I fixed a bug that was stopping the default hardening flags in Debian actaully being used. It turns out that using them breaks the build, specifically setting -Werror=format-security: from the log: c++ -c -g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wall -DTHLINUX -O2 -o thpoint.o thpoint.cxx thpoint.cxx: In member function ‘virtual bool thpoint::export_mp(thexpmapmpxs*)’: thpoint.cxx:657:89: error: format not a string literal and no format arguments [-Werror=format-security] The code is: if (!thisnan(this->xsize)) { //if (double(int(this->xsize)) != this->xsize) // sprintf(buff,"%.1f",this->xsize); //else // sprintf(buff,"%.0f",this->xsize); fprintf(out->file,utf2tex(out->layout->units.format_human_length(this->xsize))); } I don't understand this beyond the issue being that a format string really should be supplied, otherwise it's a security risk, and it's not being. Can someone supply a fix please? Wookey -- Principal hats: Linaro, Emdebian, Wookware, Balloonboard, ARM http://wookware.org/

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Re: [Therion] Therion 5.3.11 fails compile in Loch
by Graham Mullan 09 Oct '13

09 Oct '13

Sometimes I wonder why all the geeky types complain about Windows ;-) Graham

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drawing files with unnecessary large extents created by therion/topparser
by Bruce 06 Oct '13

06 Oct '13

Anyone know what is going on here? I suspect it is something I am not doing that should be obvious. This happens sometimes with background image xvi imports from PocketTopo via Therions converter. I think it happens always (to varying degrees) with background image xvi imports created by TopParser. The th2 file has a drawing area that is set way too large, and the position of the drawing within the application window is never saved (drawing always opens with bottom left of drawing area displayed, and then one has to search for the background image within a very large canvas). You will need to adjust the path pointing to the attached xvi background image. There is something about the drawing extents that is not right. Not sure if it is just a gap in my Xtherion knowledge, or if there is something unusual about how TopParser (and sometimes the therion convert) creates the files. Can I fix it by manually changing something after the file is created? Most times this does not happen with Therions converter. Bruce

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