March 2009 - Therion

Bug using 08 or 09 as station names
by Stefan Oswald 11 Mar '09

11 Mar '09

Hi together, We are using station names such as aa01, aa02; two things i recognised: -In the data input mask he always kills the 0 in the logical proposed station name (aa2 to aa3 in the example), we always have to enter the 0 by hand. -In map editor: When entering -name aa08@data therion crashes when clicking for the next station point. (It works without the 0) This error occours only with 08 and 09 in station names! Greetings and Glück Tief, stefan

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Strange scale-dependent Metapost error
by Duncan Collis 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

Hi, I have a survey which compiles correctly at 1:500 or 1:2000, but at 1:1000 produces the following error from Metapost: This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2c 7.5.2) (mem=mpost 2004.3.2) 9 MAR 2009 13:06 **data.mp (data.mp [4001] [4002] [4003] [4004] [4005] [4006] [4007] [4008] [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] [41] [42] [43] [44] [45] [46] [47] [48] [49] [50] [51] [52] [53] [54] [55] ! I can't find file `mptextmp'. <scantokens> input mptextmp <to be read again> endgroup <to be read again> , s_scalebar->...mal((EXPR0))&"\thinspace"&(EXPR2)), origin);endgroup l.10077 ...ar(100, 1, "\thfb\char109 \mainfont{}") ; Please type another input file name ! Emergency stop. <scantokens> input mptextmp <to be read again> endgroup <to be read again> , s_scalebar->...mal((EXPR0))&"\thinspace"&(EXPR2)), origin);endgroup l.10077 ...ar(100, 1, "\thfb\char109 \mainfont{}") ; *** (job aborted, file error in nonstop mode) The problem disappears when a particular scrap is commented-out in the map definition, although I can't see anything particularly strange about that scrap. How should I go about debugging this? Duncan.

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Re: [Therion] How to produce outputs integrating various types of maps ?
by roger＠r-schuster.de 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

Hi all, > So my problem is that I would like to produce > a single output (typically pdf), including > several maps, usually one standard map, > plus one extended elevation, but there > could be several of them. You may produce one PDF for each projection and merge / arrange them with Inkscape. http://www.inkscape.org It can import the PDFs generated by Therion. Roger

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How to produce outputs integrating various types ofmaps ? (was: Two scraps, one river...)
by Ricardo Constantino 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

I also used Paul's example to produce this kind of output : http://www.entrada.tv/DB/caves/DB/Almonda/Docs/Almonda_topo_2008_mainline.p… ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Karoshi" <riza(a)sbox.tugraz.at> To: <therion(a)speleo.sk> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [Therion] RES: Two scraps, one river... Hello, here I send you my examples. I hope this will help you. Feel free to ask if there are still questions. Greetings, Paul Quoting Fabio Kok Geribello <fabio(a)geribello.com.br>: > Hi Paul, > > Thank you for your response, I tried but still couldn’t get a good > result. Could you please send me an example... > > Fabio > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: therion-bounces(a)speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] Em > nome de Paul Karoshi > Enviada em: quarta-feira, 17 de dezembro de 2008 09:01 > Para: List for Therion users > Assunto: Re: [Therion] Two scraps, one river... > > Hi, > > what you can do: > > just connect the borders. Therefor you have to draw the area with > several borders but thats no problem. > > So: area_scrap1 consists of border_1, border_2 and border_3 > area_scrap2 consists of border_4, border_5 ans border_6 > > then use > join border_1 border_4 > join border_2 border_3 > in your .th-file > > If you still got questions i will send you an .th2 as example > > > Paul > > > > > > > Quoting Fabio Kok Geribello <fabio(a)geribello.com.br>: > >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> We´re using Therion to produce maps for many caves in Brazil but I´m >> having >> some poor results wen I have to join scraps with intersecting areas…. >> >> >> >> I know that Therion is only able to join lines so how do I represent a >> river, for exemple that spreads between two or more scraps? >> >> >> >> Usualy there is a gap appearing due to the scraps adjustments… >> >> >> >> Is there any trick to solve that? >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> Fabio >> >> >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Therion mailing list > Therion(a)speleo.sk > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion > > _______________________________________________ > Therion mailing list > Therion(a)speleo.sk > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Therion mailing list > Therion(a)speleo.sk > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion >

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Re: [Therion] Chinese characters in Therion.
by Stelios Zacharias 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

I was struggling with Greek text until the latest snapshot. Greek is more western than not, though. Stelios At 03:11 09/03/2009, you wrote: >On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Martin Budaj <m.budaj(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > It should work with the new font setup (you need latest snapshot). You > > just need to set pdf-fonts in therion.ini file (search thbook for > > pdf-fonts keyword) to reference Chinese fonts (you can enter the same > > font name for all styles). > >It works !! I was expecting this to be difficult, but it just works >(on Win32, I'll try on my Linux system later). > >However, while all Chinese fonts contain western characters, it' not >unusual for the typography to suck when using western characters from >a Chinese font. Thus, if I specify that Therion should use a Chinese >font for all typefaces (<rm>, <it>, <bf>, <ss> and <si>), it means >that I will likely get ugly text for things that are in western >script. Of course, I can mark all Chinese text as, say <rm>, and >specify a Chinese font only for that style, but that means the <rm> >style is no longer available for use for western text. > >Ideally I'd like to do something like: > ><rm>This is western text in a Roman font <ss>This is western text in a >Sans-Serif font <rm lang=zh>[This is Chinese text in a Song font] <ss >lang=zh>[This is Chinese text in a Hei font] > >... and specify fonts per language. Then it could be possible to have >multilingual Therion source files, and to choose the output language >in the thconfig file. > >In fact, for a Chinese user (I don't think there are any yet), <rm>, ><it>, <bf>, <ss> and <si> mightn't make a whole lots of sense anyway; >while Hei script is kind of like sans-serif and Song is similarly a >bit like using a serif font, italics and boldface aren't really used >in Chinese. Probably there are similar issues in other languages. >Maybe it would make more sense (and be more generally applicable) to >specify fonts according to use, ie, label, comment, title, with >variants for emphasis, etc, and allow the user to specify an >appropriate font for each? > >Does anyone else use Therion in either a multilingual environment or >with a non-western language? > >Duncan. >_______________________________________________ >Therion mailing list >Therion(a)speleo.sk >http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion

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Chinese characters in Therion.
by Duncan Collis 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

Hi, I'd like to be produce output from Therion with Chinese characters in titles/labels/team members' names, etc. A little experimentation produces no errors, but no Chinese text either. Am I right in guessing that I need a CJK package for Tex for this to work? Duncan

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NotePad++ Therion user defined language style
by Bruce Mutton 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

I have built on Duncans survex example to develop NotePad++ user defined language styles for Therion. The simple one is a bit trivial, but is effective in making Therion data files easy to understand when editing with NotePadd++. The other is comprehensive but rather busy and colourful. It shows up the limitations of the NotePad++ styles format. Simplifying it would perhaps be an improvement. Still someone might find them useful. An improvement would be to have slightly different styles for *.th, *.th2, *.thc (my version of thconfig*) files. But three files are harder to keep consistent. Bruce

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Scale dependent "scrap outline intersects itself" warning
by Duncan Collis 08 Mar '09

08 Mar '09

Hi, I have noticed that when producing pdf output at some scales, I get a warning that a particular scrap outline intersects itself, while at other scales the same scrap causes no warnings. eg, base-scale 1 1000 scale 1 4000 I get: [Warning: scrap outline intersects itself in scrap scr_jfacct_6(a)48h-i12-40-qikeng.tianxing] while if I change the scale: base-scale 1 1000 scale 1 1000 I get no such warning. To me this seems very strange. What's going on? Duncan.

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Logo and Linefeed in Legend
by Boldt, Markus 05 Mar '09

05 Mar '09

Hi, I have found to do a Logo from my club into a page by METAPOST. But is it also possible to do a Logo in the Legend-Box? And a second Question: How is it possible to do simply a empty line into the legend-box or a linefeed, if there are for example several names of surveyors and I want to separate some names from others? regards Markus

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