[Therion] Data Management (Adam Sampson)

Sat Sep 5 12:53:00 CEST 2015

Dave has been my personal tutor for the last 2/3 weeks and has got me flying along with things. I can not thank him enough for the not inconsiderable time and effort he has put in with me. He sorted my file structure and checked and corrected lots of my data some of which is available to view using the dropbox link. Be warned files have been flying in and out of that dropbox so some of the stuffs a bit messy.
I have been giving some thought to producing a tutorial to follow on from Footlegs wiki item. Unfortunately it's not a simple as I first thought. Over the next few months I will attempt to come up with something that will enable a novice therioneer understand the next steps following the Footleg wiki article. It would be nice to continue using Bull Pot as the sample cave but I have not got time to re-survey that so I propose we use an existing data set which could become the default novice reference.
It seems many people give up with Therion as it is difficult to learn but with a good tutorial and a little help many more could be using it.
What do people think, am I wasting my time, comments please.
Oh and if someone else is already doing something similar please shout up. No point doing it twice.

 Nick.
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From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [therion-bounces at speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Dave Clucas [dave.clucas at icloud.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 7:55 AM
To: therion at speleo.sk
Subject: Re: [Therion] Data Management (Adam Sampson)

I helped Nick with his problen. To see how it's done have a look at the sample data we worked on https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lmpe35x3mhy7kp8/AADED3GW7KpiAFVKR1q-zxEsa?dl=0

Any queries contact me.

Dave Clucas
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On 19 Aug 2015, at 12:44, therion-request at speleo.sk<mailto:therion-request at speleo.sk> wrote:

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Please do let us know what you figure out. Martin helped me figure out how to have my surveys in a sub-folder of my main survey, but so far I'm only doing one cave. Would like to hear how to add the other area caves to the same output.

Adam Sampson(502)509-5066caver.adam at outlook.comwww.kentuckykarstconservancy.com

From: Nick at pff.uk.com
To: therion at speleo.sk
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 10:31:32 +0100
Subject: Re: [Therion] Data Management

Andrew, Martin, Rowena,

Thanks for the replies. What I clearly don?t
understand are the basic building blocks of Therion, folder structures etc

Dave C has kindly offered to look at my
stuff and advise so hopefully I will sort this out soon.

I suspect I am at a point that a lot of
folk get to in their Therion leaning curve so once I get my head round this I
may write a wiki article about this from a novice point of view. It really should
be a continuation of Footlegs excellent tutorial which I have referred to many
times over the last few months.

Andrew, files will be in the registry by
the end of the day I promises.

Thanks once again all

Nick.

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Management

Nick,

thbook:

? -d ?
Turn on debugging mode. The current implementation creates a temporary
directory

named thTMPDIR (in
your system temporary directory) and does not delete any

temporary files.

may you run  therion with -d parameter and check the files inside
the folder  thTMPDIR?

May you send me both the log from therion and that folder thTMPDIR
zipped?

m.

19. 8. 2015 v 5:20, rowena_l at tpg.com.au:

hello,

I have successfully created an area  PDF for the
70+ caves in my area of interest in Australia, using Therion.

Can you give more details of what your result is giving?
eg is an error being displayed, can you produce a .3d file or .lox file of the
survey legs, are you able to see  a pdf created that is missing data?

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Hi all,

After lots
of trial and error I am now producing some good outputs of individual caves but
now I have hit a wall. I believe I?m not getting the data management correct.

Here?s what
I do, I have a folder for the area/system in that folder I have other folders
for the individual caves; this is where my Top Parser produced th2 .th and
config files first landed. I also have all the Therion produced outputs in
these files.

So far so
good I think. All works well, good outputs from pdf?s to kml?s. Now I want to
produce a pdf of the area/system using these separate caves but try as hard as
I may I?m just not succeeding.

I have read
all the stuff on the wiki over and over and checked back though this mailing
list but all my attempts at this output have failed. Next plan of attack was to
look at other people?s data in the Cave Registry Data Archive which helped and
I now see how the .th and config files should look but I am still missing
something some where.

I keep seeing
snatches of info about index files but can find no definitive instruction on
how to use them.

I realise
this problem probable has a simple solution and given enough time I am sure I
can work it out but life?s too short to dick about for hours especially when
someone out there has the answer. Also I have a deadline looming on some of
these maps and I?m now getting a bit worried I will not make it.

Any help
would be appreciated and if anyone in the Yorkshire
area wants to compare notes (I?m sure that there are more numptys like me out
there) I will travel and bring beer.

Nick.

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