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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Please do let us know what you figure out. Martin helped me figure out how to have my surveys in a sub-folder of my main survey, but so far I'm only doing one cave. Would like to hear how to add the other area caves to the same output.<br><br><div>Adam Sampson</div><div><span style="font-size:12pt;">(502)509-5066</span></div><div>caver.adam@outlook.com</div><div>www.kentuckykarstconservancy.com</div><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: Nick@pff.uk.com<br>To: therion@speleo.sk<br>Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 10:31:32 +0100<br>Subject: Re: [Therion] Data Management<br><br>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Thanks for the replies. What I clearly don’t
understand are the basic building blocks of Therion, folder structures etc</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Dave C has kindly offered to look at my
stuff and advise so hopefully I will sort this out soon.</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">I suspect I am at a point that a lot of
folk get to in their Therion leaning curve so once I get my head round this I
may write a wiki article about this from a novice point of view. It really should
be a continuation of Footlegs excellent tutorial which I have referred to many
times over the last few months.</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Andrew, files will be in the registry by
the end of the day I promises.</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;">Thanks once again all</span></font></p>
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therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Martin Sluka<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> 19 August 2015 08:38<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Therion] Data
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Turn on debugging mode. The current implementation creates a temporary
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">named <font color="#0433ff"><span style="color:#0433FF;">thTMPDIR </span></font>(in
your system temporary directory) and does not delete any</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">may you run therion with -d parameter and check the files inside
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">May you send me both the log from therion and that folder thTMPDIR
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">19. 8. 2015 v 5:20, <a href="mailto:rowena_l@tpg.com.au">rowena_l@tpg.com.au</a>:</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="1" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;">I have successfully created an area PDF for the
70+ caves in my area of interest in Australia, using Therion.</span></font></p>
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eg is an error being displayed, can you produce a .3d file or .lox file of the
survey legs, are you able to see a pdf created that is missing data?</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style=""><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;">After lots
of trial and error I am now producing some good outputs of individual caves but
now I have hit a wall. I believe I’m not getting the data management correct.</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style=""><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;">Here’s what
I do, I have a folder for the area/system in that folder I have other folders
for the individual caves; this is where my Top Parser produced th2 .th and
config files first landed. I also have all the Therion produced outputs in
these files. </span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style=""><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;">So far so
good I think. All works well, good outputs from pdf’s to kml’s. Now I want to
produce a pdf of the area/system using these separate caves but try as hard as
I may I’m just not succeeding.</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style=""><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;">I have read
all the stuff on the wiki over and over and checked back though this mailing
list but all my attempts at this output have failed. Next plan of attack was to
look at other people’s data in the Cave Registry Data Archive which helped and
I now see how the .th and config files should look but I am still missing
something some where.</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style=""><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;">I keep seeing
snatches of info about index files but can find no definitive instruction on
how to use them.</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style=""><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;">I realise
this problem probable has a simple solution and given enough time I am sure I
can work it out but life’s too short to dick about for hours especially when
someone out there has the answer. Also I have a deadline looming on some of
these maps and I’m now getting a bit worried I will not make it.</span></font></p>
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would be appreciated and if anyone in the Yorkshire
area wants to compare notes (I’m sure that there are more numptys like me out
there) I will travel and bring beer. </span></font></p>
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