My "export model -o ##NAME##.kml" exports work fine but "export map -o ##NAME##.kml" sometimes works perfectly but other times I get small pieces/part of a cave missing. I have checked for walls/pillars with the tick mark the wrong way round and all look OK. I notice that other people have had issues with this a while back and even noticed that Andrew stopped using kml output. In all cases the compile runs with no warnings and the pdf output is fine. Am I wasting my time, is there a better way to get similar results. Also on the "model" outputs is there a way to show just centreline and not the splays, I see this question has been asked before but I could not see an answer. I really quite like the kml outputs as you can get the evenings survey into Google earth before the first pints half way down whist sat in the pub afterwards -not always 100% positioned at this point but it still looks good - Nick.
On 27 Jul 2015 5:34 pm, "Nick Bairstow" <Nick@pff.uk.com> wrote:
I have checked for walls/pillars with the tick mark the wrong way round
and all look OK. I notice that other people have had issues with this a while back and even noticed that Andrew stopped using kml output. In all cases the compile runs with no warnings and the pdf output is fine.
I have not stopped, just googlemaps got rid of the easy way to put kml on, by embedding the links. They are more fussy than pdf, bug looks like you have checked for the right things. Sometimes you need to close the end of a scrap with an invisible wall for the algorithm to work, this was a solution to a previous email thread I started on loc models, but it seems to apply to kml as well. Currently I am away with limited tech so cannot find the thread, hopefully someone else will help you with the rest, otherwise I will in 10days or so Andrew
Nick Check this wiki entry http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/tips#avoiding_invisible_or_misshapen_ scraps_in_loch_and_google_earth Bruce _____ From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Andrew Atkinson Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2015 4:46 a.m. To: Therion Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues On 27 Jul 2015 5:34 pm, "Nick Bairstow" <Nick@pff.uk.com> wrote:
I have checked for walls/pillars with the tick mark the wrong way round
and all look OK. I notice that other people have had issues with this a while back and even noticed that Andrew stopped using kml output. In all cases the compile runs with no warnings and the pdf output is fine.
I have not stopped, just googlemaps got rid of the easy way to put kml on, by embedding the links. They are more fussy than pdf, bug looks like you have checked for the right things. Sometimes you need to close the end of a scrap with an invisible wall for the algorithm to work, this was a solution to a previous email thread I started on loc models, but it seems to apply to kml as well. Currently I am away with limited tech so cannot find the thread, hopefully someone else will help you with the rest, otherwise I will in 10days or so Andrew
I will use my worst kml map export and trim it back to just walls to simplify it. I will experiment with closing passage ends etc as there are several on this map and see what happens. I shall report back. Nick. ________________________________ From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: 27 July 2015 20:39 To: 'List for Therion users' Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues Nick Check this wiki entry http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/tips#avoiding_invisible_or_misshapen_... Bruce ________________________________ From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Andrew Atkinson Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2015 4:46 a.m. To: Therion Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues On 27 Jul 2015 5:34 pm, "Nick Bairstow" <Nick@pff.uk.com<mailto:Nick@pff.uk.com>> wrote:
I have checked for walls/pillars with the tick mark the wrong way round and all look OK. I notice that other people have had issues with this a while back and even noticed that Andrew stopped using kml output. In all cases the compile runs with no warnings and the pdf output is fine.
I have not stopped, just googlemaps got rid of the easy way to put kml on, by embedding the links. They are more fussy than pdf, bug looks like you have checked for the right things. Sometimes you need to close the end of a scrap with an invisible wall for the algorithm to work, this was a solution to a previous email thread I started on loc models, but it seems to apply to kml as well. Currently I am away with limited tech so cannot find the thread, hopefully someone else will help you with the rest, otherwise I will in 10days or so Andrew
Right, things I found. Firstly I found a sneaky boulder which had been drawn with a wall line. I now know about the search and select function in the map editor this is clearly very useful for checking feature types and it will be in regular use from now on. I found a pillar without the -outside in option on. With these two things corrected the kml output was nearly there I just had a few strange shapes to certain bits of the map so next I looked at the open passages. I put extra wall lines across the open ends one at a time and this sorted the strange shapes but doing this showed that not all open passage ends caused a problem some rendered fine with a straight edge between the two wall ends. It was obvious which open ends caused problems as these were the origin points of the strange additional shapes. Feeling quite pleased with myself now, just the other 4/5 th2's to sort out to get a nice Google earth image of the system so far. Thanks Nick. ________________________________ From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Nick Bairstow Sent: 28 July 2015 11:18 To: 'List for Therion users' Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues I will use my worst kml map export and trim it back to just walls to simplify it. I will experiment with closing passage ends etc as there are several on this map and see what happens. I shall report back. Nick. ________________________________ From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: 27 July 2015 20:39 To: 'List for Therion users' Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues Nick Check this wiki entry http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/tips#avoiding_invisible_or_misshapen_... Bruce ________________________________ From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Andrew Atkinson Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2015 4:46 a.m. To: Therion Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues On 27 Jul 2015 5:34 pm, "Nick Bairstow" <Nick@pff.uk.com<mailto:Nick@pff.uk.com>> wrote:
I have checked for walls/pillars with the tick mark the wrong way round and all look OK. I notice that other people have had issues with this a while back and even noticed that Andrew stopped using kml output. In all cases the compile runs with no warnings and the pdf output is fine.
I have not stopped, just googlemaps got rid of the easy way to put kml on, by embedding the links. They are more fussy than pdf, bug looks like you have checked for the right things. Sometimes you need to close the end of a scrap with an invisible wall for the algorithm to work, this was a solution to a previous email thread I started on loc models, but it seems to apply to kml as well. Currently I am away with limited tech so cannot find the thread, hopefully someone else will help you with the rest, otherwise I will in 10days or so Andrew
Thanks for the feedback Nick. I'll endeavor to update the wiki kml entry, as your comments would make it clearer. Remind me in a few weeks if I haven't got around to it. Bruce _____ From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Nick Bairstow Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2015 11:26 p.m. To: 'List for Therion users' Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues Right, things I found. Firstly I found a sneaky boulder which had been drawn with a wall line. I now know about the search and select function in the map editor this is clearly very useful for checking feature types and it will be in regular use from now on. I found a pillar without the -outside in option on. With these two things corrected the kml output was nearly there I just had a few strange shapes to certain bits of the map so next I looked at the open passages. I put extra wall lines across the open ends one at a time and this sorted the strange shapes but doing this showed that not all open passage ends caused a problem some rendered fine with a straight edge between the two wall ends. It was obvious which open ends caused problems as these were the origin points of the strange additional shapes. Feeling quite pleased with myself now, just the other 4/5 th2's to sort out to get a nice Google earth image of the system so far. Thanks Nick. _____ From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Nick Bairstow Sent: 28 July 2015 11:18 To: 'List for Therion users' Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues I will use my worst kml map export and trim it back to just walls to simplify it. I will experiment with closing passage ends etc as there are several on this map and see what happens. I shall report back. Nick. _____ From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: 27 July 2015 20:39 To: 'List for Therion users' Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues Nick Check this wiki entry http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/tips#avoiding_invisible_or_misshapen_ scraps_in_loch_and_google_earth Bruce _____ From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Andrew Atkinson Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2015 4:46 a.m. To: Therion Subject: Re: [Therion] KML Issues On 27 Jul 2015 5:34 pm, "Nick Bairstow" <Nick@pff.uk.com> wrote:
I have checked for walls/pillars with the tick mark the wrong way round
and all look OK. I notice that other people have had issues with this a while back and even noticed that Andrew stopped using kml output. In all cases the compile runs with no warnings and the pdf output is fine.
I have not stopped, just googlemaps got rid of the easy way to put kml on, by embedding the links. They are more fussy than pdf, bug looks like you have checked for the right things. Sometimes you need to close the end of a scrap with an invisible wall for the algorithm to work, this was a solution to a previous email thread I started on loc models, but it seems to apply to kml as well. Currently I am away with limited tech so cannot find the thread, hopefully someone else will help you with the rest, otherwise I will in 10days or so Andrew
hi nick, there is the option"-disable splay-shots": seems to work for kml exports. marco On 7/27/15, Nick Bairstow <Nick@pff.uk.com> wrote:
My "export model -o ##NAME##.kml" exports work fine but "export map -o ##NAME##.kml" sometimes works perfectly but other times I get small pieces/part of a cave missing. I have checked for walls/pillars with the tick mark the wrong way round and all look OK. I notice that other people have had issues with this a while back and even noticed that Andrew stopped using kml output. In all cases the compile runs with no warnings and the pdf output is fine. Am I wasting my time, is there a better way to get similar results. Also on the "model" outputs is there a way to show just centreline and not the splays, I see this question has been asked before but I could not see an answer. I really quite like the kml outputs as you can get the evenings survey into Google earth before the first pints half way down whist sat in the pub afterwards -not always 100% positioned at this point but it still looks good -
Nick.
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