Hmmm... Pavel raises a very good point! What use is LRUD data? I collect it but make no use of it when sketching and even less when working in Therion. In this case - Since all the centerline data is in one file, it was a very easy test. I added "ignoreall" in the appropriate place in the "data" line. It works very well. The spurious walls are now gone. The map looks exactly the way I want. Since Loch does not work for me, I do not have a way to see what this does to the .lox files. =============== Bill Gee On 11/26/24 10:18, Pavel Herich wrote:
I agree, the question is, do You need them? Just to create a xvi file I suppose. Because you need remove just right-left column, lox could look even better without these two.
Or you can have two headers in centerline, and just switch them in case with Search and Replace?
#data normal from to tape compass clino up down right left data normal from to tape compass clino up down ignoreall
P.
Dňa 2024-11-26 17:02 Bill Gee napísal(a):
Hi Pavel -
It might - but then I have to keep two copies of the centerline data. Might not be so bad now, but as more is added, I have to make sure both data sets are in sync.
=============== Bill Gee
On 11/26/24 09:56, Pavel Herich wrote:
This should help a bit:
data normal from to tape compass clino ignoreall #ignore all lrud data in centerline 14P 15P 7.91 345 2.5 1.6 0.2 1.5 0.3 15P 16P 5.4 25 -3 0 1.5 1.2 2 ...
Pavel
Dňa 2024-11-26 16:46 Bill Gee napísal(a):
Thank you all for your suggestions and hints. I have figured out how to make this work - Mostly!
Take a look at this map:
https://campercaver.net/MiscFiles/CaveSpringCave-All.pdf
This is very close to what I want. The only problem is more of an annoyance. It appears that adding the centerline as a survey makes Therion process the LRUDs to come up with a pseudo-wall. I would like that to go away. I tried adding "hide-symbol line wall" to the layout, but that made all of the walls go away.
In the thconfig file I changed the "source" line to the new .th file, added a symbol-hide line for cross-sections and changed the name of the output file on the export line. I also changed the "select" line to reference MainPlan-All.
Here is how I set up the .th file:
======================== map MainPlan-All MainPlan MainCenterLine endmap
# Create the main map to include all submaps map MainPlan -title "CaveSpringCave (SHN-017) - Plan View" - projection plan
# X and Y upper level X-Survey@CaveSpringCave Y-Survey@CaveSpringCave
# Main passages MainPassages@CaveSpringCave
# Lower stream passage A-Entrance@CaveSpringCave A-Survey@CaveSpringCave
# T-Survey - Small side passage off upper trunk T-Survey@CaveSpringCave endmap
survey MainCenterLine centreline
# Define the units that will be used. units compass degrees units clino degrees units length feet units depth feet units tape feet units altitude feet units dimensions feet
# A separate file contains all of the survey data. Use multiple files as needed input CaveSpringCave-Surveydata.txt
endcentreline endsurvey
survey CaveSpringCave -title "Cave Spring Cave"
centreline
# Define the units that will be used. units compass degrees units clino degrees units length feet units depth feet units tape feet units altitude feet units dimensions feet
# A separate file contains all of the survey data. Use multiple files as needed input CaveSpringCave-Surveydata.txt
endcentreline
# Lower stream passage A survey input 20161107/CaveSpringCave-LowerEntrance.th2 input 20221013/CaveSpringCave-A3-A7.th2 input 20221013/CaveSpringCave-A7-A17.th2 [much more omitted ...]
==============================
=============== Bill Gee
On 11/25/24 09:31, Bill Gee wrote:
Actually, I would like full detail where it exists and centerline only where it does not. Martin's hints give me an idea how to get this. It will take a day or two for me to set it up and test.
I also want maps where only the drawn stuff is shown. I think what I need to do is leave those parts of *.th2 and thconfig alone, and add new stuff as noted by Martin.
One additional question regarding the "select" statement location ... I think I need to put it in thconfig just before the layout and export lines that creates the file, like this:
====================== thconfig ============ select MainPlan
layout basics ... endlayout
(more layout sections)
export map -proj plan -layout ChosenLayout -o Outputfile
(several more "export map" commands to get Loch, Aven, KML etc files)
select FullMap
layout FullMapLayout ... endlayout
export map -proj plan -layout FullMapLayout -o AnotherOutputFile ======================
Is this about right?
Another way I might do it is to create entirely new thconfig and *.th2 files just for this map, then use a "system" call in the main thconfig to launch another instance of therion with the alternate thconfig as a command line option.
=============== Bill Gee
On 11/25/24 08:38, Martin Sluka via Therion wrote:
It means you want only centerline for all the data set and walls for only part of a cave. Correct?
Define map which will contain only survey data. Define other map, which will contain only sraps or maps from scraps for that part of the cave you want. Define map, which will include both maps defined above. Select this map in thconfig Add to layout: symbol-hide group all symbol-show line wall symbol-show group centerline (or symbol-show line centerline)
It should work
M.
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> 25. 11. 2024 v 14:03, Bill Gee <bgee@campercaver.net>: > > I am looking at this entry in the Wiki: > > https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/ > tips#showing_centreline_for_parts_of_a_cave_and_passage_walls_for_others > > My understanding it that this requires making two sets of > centerline data, then creating a survey for each set. One of the > data sets is for that part of the cave which has walls/scraps and > the other is for the remainder of the cave. > > The thconfig file is set up with only one survey/endsurvey > section. I think this also would have to change into two sections. > > Is this correct? > > The cave I want to do this for has all centerline data in one big > file. It would be a huge pain to separate that into two files. > Even more of a pain would be moving the data as sketching is > completed. > > Thanks! > -- =============== > Bill Gee > > _______________________________________________ > Therion mailing list > Therion@speleo.sk > https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
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