Am Freitag, 6. Mai 2016, 08:11:21 schrieb Martin Sluka: Dear Martin, dear Bruce,
any „beginner’s“ question to Therion’s mailing list is OK, because we are looking to try to solve as much as possible problems and ideas which cavers have about documentation of caves.
[Bruce:] I think it is better to ask such questions on the forum. That way everyone else gets to ponder how well they really know therion, and to learn possibly unexpected ways of solving problems. And maybe insight as to how to improve the documentation.
thank you both; then I will ask lots of stupid questions :-)
You may not use symbols without definition of scraps - small parts of maps. But you may define a scrap (several stations long only) and use only point symbols for stations and let’s say symbol for entrance. Then the other one scrap and the next scrap…
You should only define map then:
map polygon_only.map -projection plan scrap1 scrap2 scrap3 … endmap
I think I understand now. I tried to work in this route, then, is this a correct work-flow? (Tried after therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/drawingchecklist) I: - opened the therion project file (bergwerk.thconfig), - went to "Map editor", - 'new'-file symbol, - went to "Background image" --> xvi-File of polygon (centreline) drawing - the file commands ("Dateibefehle"), insert scrap ("Skizze einfügen") - Pointsymbol - insert point--> type "entrance" - Saved as "bergwerk.th2". Then in the highest level th-file (bergwerk.th): (survey bergwerk -title "Bergwerk 1" ... lots of input, equate ...) input bergwerk.th2 map polygon_only.map -projection plan scrap1 endmap endsurvey Then, after a lot of fiddling I realized there needs to be a map hierarchy also, so I set after 'endsurvey': map total-map polygon_only.map@bergwerk bergwerk endmap ... and modified the th-file as such: source bergwerk.th select total-map layout bergwerk_export language de units metric [etc. pp. ff.] endlayout select polygon_only.map@bergwerk export map -projection plan -o bergwerk.xvi export map -projection plan -layout bergwerk_export -layout-color map-fg 60 -output Bergwerk.pdf -fmt pdf In the compiler compartment the little window on the right "Planstruktur" (map structure) shows: [Folder symbol] Plan | |-[Double sheet symbol] total-map | |----[Single sheet symbol] polygon-only.map ... which seems correct to me, and it compiles without error. But now I get an exported pdf like that: Before: --------- | poly | | gon | | draw | --------- Now: |-------| | scrap | | entr. | --------- | poly | | gon | | draw | --------- (I hope you see what O meant to draw:). But I see the entrance symbol now! So I fear I missed something to tell Therion to layer this correctly instead of first the scrap, then on paper below the polygopn draw. I think it has something to do with 'joining scraps', http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/tips, but how do I join only one scrap to the polygon draw? Or is it simply a nesting problem, and I nested wrong somewhere? Do I need to use the 'join' command in the th file, somthing like 'join scrap1 0@Bergwerk=1'? Do I simply need at least one lineor such in the scrap, and a single point is not enough? Tried to fiddle with that, but to no avail so far. Thanks again, an best regards, Christian