Stefan, I completely agree. I really like Therion and I've drawn large systems with it. In contrast of a user centric system, Therion is system centric, where the user must conform to the system. It is definitely takes more time and effort to develop a user centric system. I'm currently trying to develop a more user friendly cave drawing software, called Cavewhere (www.cavewhere.org). It's currently under heavy development and has a long long way to go. You can't even draw or enter a centerline. There are some major underlying design issues that I'm fixing right now. For now, Therion is definitely the best thing out there. Steelwool On Feb 8, 2008, at 7:09 AM, Martin Sluka wrote:
On 8.2.2008, at 12:50, Stefan Oswald wrote:
We draw on therion in our caving club, but we have a few problems, which i want to report to you, we also have made a little "brainstorming"...
It is always very difficult to introduce new people, no software engineers, into therion, also i had great problems. The map editor user interface gives many options, but thereby it is not really easy to handle, the same with the layout. It is difficult to produce a good looking plan-layout with text and so on. A generall icon-interface, such as most leading CAD programmes use would be much more efficient in our opinion. Is this planed in final version?
In Therion you draw something and you do not know what it will exactly look like. For handling the Programm it would be easyer if you could immediately see the result without pressing F9, opening the .pdf, take a look at the result, close it again (Windows) and return to therion. just an idea. Also showing other scraps (.th2 files) in map editor, as with CAD for Cavers (Autocad) would be an option.
To abstract we mean placing focus on usability would make it easyer for many people using therion, not only in our club.
Hi Stefan,
you are absolutely right, your arguments or wishes are evergreen from the very beginning of therion.
BUT, therion is a piece of software "as is". It was made by two men (with help of several others). Both authors are very busy now and there is no any space to rewrite for example xtherion map editor from scratch.
Another BUT - the format of data is open, the source code is available. So there is theoretically no any problem to make new map editor for therion. Wysiwyg, with menus, icons, etc., etc. AND compatible with Linux, MacOSX and Windows. AND free.
Good luck
Martin _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk http://www.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion