[Therion] Fwd: Fedora 42 xtherion will not start
Bill Gee
bgee at campercaver.net
Tue Apr 22 19:37:55 CEST 2025
And another update! I found a way to work around the problem. I
changed the first line in /usr/local/bin/xtherion to read:
#!/usr/bin/env wish8
That works. xTherion now launches without error.
===============
Bill Gee
On 4/22/25 12:24, Bill Gee wrote:
> Yet another update: There is a note at Fedora Project regarding the
> upgrade to Tcl version 9. It mentions bwidget. I do not see anything
> here about how to make something run in Tcl 8.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/TclTk9.0
>
> I tried modifying the xtherion program so the first line is
>
> #!/usr/bin/env tclsh8
>
> Did not work, though it gives a different error message.
>
> ===============
> Bill Gee
>
> On 4/22/25 06:55, Bill Gee wrote:
>> Resending to the group, since this might be of general interest.
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [Therion] Fedora 42 xtherion will not start
>> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 14:36:16 -0500
>> From: Bill Gee <bgee at campercaver.net>
>> To: Stacho Mudrak <lists at group-s.sk>
>>
>> Hi Stacho -
>>
>> No luck. I included below a directory listing of the bwidget package
>> directory, if that helps. There are multiple tcl directories on the
>> system. tcl8.6 is the directory used by the Fedora 42 package. It is
>> the only one of the tcl directories that has anything regarding bwidget.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I no longer have a Fedora 41 system to compare. I do
>> have a system running X instead of Wayland. That system also has
>> Therion 6.3.3. It shows the same results, which is what I expected.
>>
>> =====================
>> bgee at main2:~$ wish
>> % package require BWidget
>> can't find package BWidget
>> % package require bwidget
>> can't find package bwidget
>> %
>>
>> bgee at main2:~$ ll -d /usr/share/tcl*
>> drwxr-xr-x. 5 root root 4096 Feb 1 18:00 /usr/share/tcl8
>> drwxr-xr-x. 7 root root 4096 Apr 19 14:57 /usr/share/tcl8.6
>> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 19 14:58 /usr/share/tcl9
>> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Apr 19 14:58 /usr/share/tcl9.0
>>
>> bgee at main2:~$ dir /usr/share/tcl8.6/bwidget1.9.7/
>> arrow.tcl dialog.tcl images listbox.tcl
>> panelframe.tcl scrollview.tcl tree.tcl
>> bitmap.tcl dragsite.tcl init.tcl mainframe.tcl
>> passwddlg.tcl scrollw.tcl utils.tcl
>> buttonbox.tcl dropsite.tcl labelentry.tcl messagedlg.tcl
>> pkgIndex.tcl separator.tcl widget.tcl
>> button.tcl dynhelp.tcl labelframe.tcl notebook.tcl
>> progressbar.tcl spinbox.tcl wizard.tcl
>> color.tcl entry.tcl label.tcl pagesmgr.tcl
>> progressdlg.tcl statusbar.tcl xpm2image.tcl
>> combobox.tcl font.tcl lang panedw.tcl
>> scrollframe.tcl titleframe.tcl
>>
>> =====================
>>
>> Update! I did a bit more poking around and discovered I have two
>> different versions of tcl installed. They are 8.6 and 9.0.
>>
>> bgee at main2:~$ ll /usr/bin/tclsh*
>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Feb 1 18:00 /usr/bin/tclsh -> tclsh9.0
>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Feb 1 18:00 /usr/bin/tclsh8 -> tclsh8.6
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11728 Feb 1 18:00 /usr/bin/tclsh8.6
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11720 Feb 1 18:00 /usr/bin/tclsh9.0
>>
>> If I start tclsh8 and then do "package require BWidget" it responds
>> with a proper version number. Running tclsh9 fails.
>>
>> ===============
>> Bill Gee
>>
>> On 4/21/25 13:50, Stacho Mudrak wrote:
>>> If you just run wish and try to import the bwidget package, does it
>>> work?
>>>
>>> On my system:
>>>
>>> user at localhost:~$ wish
>>> % package require BWidget
>>> 1.9.14
>>>
>>> S.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 at 19:25, Bill Gee <bgee at campercaver.net
>>> <mailto:bgee at campercaver.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I upgraded to Fedora 42 over the weekend. Trying to start xtherion
>>> gives a message about BWidget missing. However, it is installed.
>>>
>>> =====================
>>> bgee at main2:/public/document/CaveSurveys/CaveSpringCave$ therion --
>>> version
>>> therion 6.3.4+dev (compiled on 2025-04-09)
>>> - using Proj 9.6.0, compiled against 9.4.1
>>>
>>> bgee at main2:/public/document/CaveSurveys/CaveSpringCave$ xtherion
>>> Error in startup script: can't find package BWidget
>>> while executing
>>> "package require BWidget"
>>> (file "/usr/local/bin/xtherion" line 12925)
>>>
>>> bgee at main2:/public/document/CaveSurveys/CaveSpringCave$ su -
>>> Password:
>>>
>>> root at main2:~# dnf search bwidget
>>> Updating and loading repositories:
>>> Repositories loaded.
>>> Matched fields: name (exact)
>>> bwidget.noarch: Extended widget set for Tk
>>> Matched fields: name, summary
>>> kf5-kjobwidgets-devel.i686: Development files for kf5-kjobwidgets
>>> kf5-kjobwidgets-devel.x86_64: Development files for kf5-
>>> kjobwidgets
>>> kf6-kjobwidgets-devel.i686: Development files for kf6-kjobwidgets
>>> kf6-kjobwidgets-devel.x86_64: Development files for kf6-
>>> kjobwidgets
>>> kf6-kjobwidgets-doc.noarch: Developer Documentation files for
>>> kf6-kjobwidgets
>>> Matched fields: name
>>> kf5-kjobwidgets.i686: KDE Frameworks 5 Tier 2 addon for KJobs
>>> kf5-kjobwidgets.x86_64: KDE Frameworks 5 Tier 2 addon for KJobs
>>> kf6-kjobwidgets.i686: KDE Frameworks 6 Tier 2 addon for KJobs
>>> kf6-kjobwidgets.x86_64: KDE Frameworks 6 Tier 2 addon for KJobs
>>>
>>> root at main2:~# dnf install bwidget
>>> Updating and loading repositories:
>>> Repositories loaded.
>>> Package "bwidget-1.9.7-24.fc42.noarch" is already installed.
>>>
>>> Nothing to do.
>>> root at main2:~#
>>> ========================
>>>
>>> I compiled Therion while still on Fedora 41. Should I recompile?
>>>
>>> -- ===============
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