[Therion] Fwd: Fedora 42 xtherion will not start

[Bill Gee]

Resending to the group, since this might be of general interest.



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Subject: Re: [Therion] Fedora 42 xtherion will not start
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 14:36:16 -0500
From: Bill Gee <bgee at campercaver.net>
To: Stacho Mudrak <lists at group-s.sk>

Hi Stacho -

No luck.  I included below a directory listing of the bwidget package 
directory, if that helps.  There are multiple tcl directories on the 
system.  tcl8.6 is the directory used by the Fedora 42 package.  It is 
the only one of the tcl directories that has anything regarding bwidget.

Unfortunately, I no longer have a Fedora 41 system to compare.  I do 
have a system running X instead of Wayland.  That system also has 
Therion 6.3.3.  It shows the same results, which is what I expected.

=====================
bgee at main2:~$ wish
% package require BWidget
can't find package BWidget
% package require bwidget
can't find package bwidget
%

bgee at main2:~$ ll -d /usr/share/tcl*
drwxr-xr-x. 5 root root 4096 Feb  1 18:00 /usr/share/tcl8
drwxr-xr-x. 7 root root 4096 Apr 19 14:57 /usr/share/tcl8.6
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 Apr 19 14:58 /usr/share/tcl9
drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 4096 Apr 19 14:58 /usr/share/tcl9.0

bgee at main2:~$ dir /usr/share/tcl8.6/bwidget1.9.7/
arrow.tcl      dialog.tcl    images          listbox.tcl panelframe.tcl 
  scrollview.tcl  tree.tcl
bitmap.tcl     dragsite.tcl  init.tcl        mainframe.tcl passwddlg.tcl 
    scrollw.tcl     utils.tcl
buttonbox.tcl  dropsite.tcl  labelentry.tcl  messagedlg.tcl pkgIndex.tcl 
     separator.tcl   widget.tcl
button.tcl     dynhelp.tcl   labelframe.tcl  notebook.tcl 
progressbar.tcl  spinbox.tcl     wizard.tcl
color.tcl      entry.tcl     label.tcl       pagesmgr.tcl 
progressdlg.tcl  statusbar.tcl   xpm2image.tcl
combobox.tcl   font.tcl      lang            panedw.tcl scrollframe.tcl 
titleframe.tcl

=====================

Update!  I did a bit more poking around and discovered I have two 
different versions of tcl installed.  They are 8.6 and 9.0.

bgee at main2:~$ ll /usr/bin/tclsh*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     8 Feb  1 18:00 /usr/bin/tclsh -> tclsh9.0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     8 Feb  1 18:00 /usr/bin/tclsh8 -> tclsh8.6
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11728 Feb  1 18:00 /usr/bin/tclsh8.6
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11720 Feb  1 18:00 /usr/bin/tclsh9.0

If I start tclsh8 and then do "package require BWidget" it responds with 
a proper version number.  Running tclsh9 fails.

===============
Bill Gee

On 4/21/25 13:50, Stacho Mudrak wrote:
> If you just run wish and try to import the bwidget package, does it work?
> 
> On my system:
> 
> user at localhost:~$ wish
> % package require BWidget
> 1.9.14
> 
> S.
> 
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 at 19:25, Bill Gee <bgee at campercaver.net 
> <mailto:bgee at campercaver.net>> wrote:
> 
>     I upgraded to Fedora 42 over the weekend.  Trying to start xtherion
>     gives a message about BWidget missing.  However, it is installed.
> 
>     =====================
>     bgee at main2:/public/document/CaveSurveys/CaveSpringCave$ therion --
>     version
>     therion 6.3.4+dev (compiled on 2025-04-09)
>         - using Proj 9.6.0, compiled against 9.4.1
> 
>     bgee at main2:/public/document/CaveSurveys/CaveSpringCave$ xtherion
>     Error in startup script: can't find package BWidget
>           while executing
>     "package require BWidget"
>           (file "/usr/local/bin/xtherion" line 12925)
> 
>     bgee at main2:/public/document/CaveSurveys/CaveSpringCave$ su -
>     Password:
> 
>     root at main2:~# dnf search bwidget
>     Updating and loading repositories:
>     Repositories loaded.
>     Matched fields: name (exact)
>        bwidget.noarch: Extended widget set for Tk
>     Matched fields: name, summary
>        kf5-kjobwidgets-devel.i686: Development files for kf5-kjobwidgets
>        kf5-kjobwidgets-devel.x86_64: Development files for kf5-kjobwidgets
>        kf6-kjobwidgets-devel.i686: Development files for kf6-kjobwidgets
>        kf6-kjobwidgets-devel.x86_64: Development files for kf6-kjobwidgets
>        kf6-kjobwidgets-doc.noarch: Developer Documentation files for
>     kf6-kjobwidgets
>     Matched fields: name
>        kf5-kjobwidgets.i686: KDE Frameworks 5 Tier 2 addon for KJobs
>        kf5-kjobwidgets.x86_64: KDE Frameworks 5 Tier 2 addon for KJobs
>        kf6-kjobwidgets.i686: KDE Frameworks 6 Tier 2 addon for KJobs
>        kf6-kjobwidgets.x86_64: KDE Frameworks 6 Tier 2 addon for KJobs
> 
>     root at main2:~# dnf install bwidget
>     Updating and loading repositories:
>     Repositories loaded.
>     Package "bwidget-1.9.7-24.fc42.noarch" is already installed.
> 
>     Nothing to do.
>     root at main2:~#
>     ========================
> 
>     I compiled Therion while still on Fedora 41.  Should I recompile?
> 
>     -- 
>     ===============
>     Bill Gee
> 
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