[Therion] Gradient out of range - does not process
Stacho Mudrak
lists at group-s.sk
Mon Dec 14 19:09:30 CET 2020
Hello,
could you please try the latest commit? I do not think that even a warning
for 270 (=-90) to 360 (=level) degrees clino is necessary. An error can
occur if you manually type a comma in the wrong place, but the same may
happen with compass & tape and there is no warning.
S.
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 09:43, Andrew Atkinson <andrew at wotcc.org.uk> wrote:
> We have now used 3 different 'Total stations' all by different
> manufacturers
>
> All seem to give a choice between
>
> 270 as down 0 as level and 90 as up
>
> or
>
> 0 as down 90 as level and 180 as up
>
> None of them have given the choice for negative clino (all the machines
> we have use are old, but digital.
>
> So it does seem normal for theodolites!
>
> With hindsight I should have chosen the latter,then I could have just
> calibrated with a calibrate clino 90
>
> But it was difficult to get your head round, plus I was using pockettopo
> (and sexytopo) to draw the survey in the cave, so it was easier to use
> the 270 as down version
>
> It would be really useful to be able in a centreline-endcentreline nest
> to be able to suppress the out of range error and use the 270 to 360
> readings, but still have the error/warning for the more normal surveys
>
> thanks
>
> Andrew
>
> On 14/12/2020 08:24, Martin Sluka via Therion wrote:
> > Are you sure those data are “normal”?
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > Odesláno z iPhonu
> >
> > 14. 12. 2020 v 1:10, alastair gott <alastairgott at hotmail.com>:
> >
> >> Hi Andrew, if you can get deg,mins,secs to work in survex then you can
> use the .3d file with the surveys use command. (But I think from your
> careful wording, you already know this).
> >>
> >> import use.3d -surveys use
> >>
> >> Not ideal afaik for “mixing local and global coordinates” so tricky if
> your going for a kml output if you have to use with mixed .3d and normal
> .th files.
> >>
> >> It would be good if you could select a lookup file for the Clino, then
> you could easily create a translation file in excel and save that as a .th
> for your total station .th file to lookup to. But no idea if this is
> feasible or even an idea at all.
> >>
> >> Al.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On 13 Dec 2020, at 18:15, Andrew Atkinson <andrew at wotcc.org.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello
> >>>
> >>> I thought that there was a way I could stop the out of range error, but
> >>> I cannot now find it. It would be an a useful command to have as
> instead
> >>> of negative readings we got readings between 270 and 359, which
> although
> >>> strange is valid. In survex readings over 90 are just a warning, which
> >>> seems far more sensible, the problem is that I don't think that I can
> >>> enter the data in survex either without conversion as I don't think
> that
> >>> degrees minutes and seconds can be entered.
> >>>
> >>> So I'm stuck with data that I have to convert, for different reasons
> >>> depending on whether I use survex of therion.
> >>>
> >>> Here is part of the file, I have quiet a few
> >>>
> >>> survey
> >>>
> >>> centreline
> >>> data normal from to clino compass tape ignoreall
> >>> 1 2 1:08:25 83:37:40 17.88
> >>> 2 3 00:00:00 -:-:- 0.055
> >>> 3 - 02:39:00 266:49:00 3.206
> >>> 3 - 314:28:20 299:57:45 2.02
> >>> 3 - 16:32:25 312:13:20 1.246
> >>> 3 - 06:22:35 84:16:10 1.17
> >>> 3 - 309:16:45 84:15:50 1.846
> >>> 3 - 55:00:10 122:44:50 0.77
> >>> 3 - 325:02:55 249:55:45 1.014
> >>> 3 5 359:30:50 338:07:25 16.674
> >>> 5 - 306:52:00 262:23:20 1.402
> >>> 5 - 59:29:30 343:51:30 1.076
> >>> 5 - 305:08:25 358:34:30 1.274
> >>> 5 - 315:26:20 90:51:35 1.632
> >>> 5 - 29:12:45 77:01:35 1.891
> >>> 5 - 19:55:50 33:02:00 3.071
> >>> 5 - 348:22:35 31:08:25 3.707
> >>> 5 - 350:35:20 15:31:25 4.292
> >>> 5 - 13:29:35 15:31:20 4.202
> >>> 5 - 12:24:50 30:20:20 7.919
> >>> 5 6 17:29:05 31:28:50 6.444
> >>> 6 - 307:24:35 149:47:35 1.738
> >>> 6 - 344:44:40 149:45:30 1.426
> >>> 6 - 77:05:35 149:36:05 1.523
> >>> 6 - 306:05:00 314:12:10 0.84
> >>> 6 - 353:47:50 94:54:35 2.091
> >>> 6 - 00:42:00 219:31:40 5.446
> >>> 6 - 18:33:50 230:03:05 4.468
> >>> 6 7 12:26:05 241:13:00 4.272
> >>>
> >>> .....etc
> >>>
> >>> Anyone got a solution that does not mean I have to convert in a
> spreadsheet?
> >>>
> >>> thanks
> >>>
> >>> Andrew
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