[Therion] Gradient out of range - does not process

[Andrew Atkinson]

We have now used 3 different 'Total stations' all by different manufacturers

All seem to give a choice between

270 as down 0 as level and 90 as up

or

0 as down 90 as level and 180 as up

None of them have given the choice for negative clino (all the machines
we have use are old, but digital.

So it does seem normal for theodolites!

With hindsight I should have chosen the latter,then I could have just
calibrated with a calibrate clino 90

But it was difficult to get your head round, plus I was using pockettopo
(and sexytopo) to draw the survey in the cave, so it was easier to use
the 270 as down version

It would be really useful to be able in a centreline-endcentreline nest
to be able to suppress the out of range error and use the 270 to 360
readings, but still have the error/warning for the more normal surveys

thanks

Andrew

On 14/12/2020 08:24, Martin Sluka via Therion wrote:
> Are you sure those data are “normal”?
> 
> Martin
> 
> Odesláno z iPhonu
> 
> 14. 12. 2020 v 1:10, alastair gott <alastairgott at hotmail.com>:
> 
>> Hi Andrew, if you can get deg,mins,secs to work in survex then you can use the .3d file with the surveys use command. (But I think from your careful wording, you already know this).
>>
>> import use.3d -surveys use
>>
>> Not ideal afaik for “mixing local and global coordinates” so tricky if your going for a kml output if you have to use with mixed .3d and normal .th files.
>>
>> It would be good if you could select a lookup file for the Clino, then you could easily create a translation file in excel and save that as a .th for your total station .th file to lookup to. But no idea if this is feasible or even an idea at all.
>>
>> Al.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 13 Dec 2020, at 18:15, Andrew Atkinson <andrew at wotcc.org.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> I thought that there was a way I could stop the out of range error, but
>>> I cannot now find it. It would be an a useful command to have as instead
>>> of negative readings we got readings between 270 and 359, which although
>>> strange is valid. In survex readings over 90 are just a warning, which
>>> seems far more sensible, the problem is that I don't think that I can
>>> enter the data in survex either without conversion as I don't think that
>>> degrees minutes and seconds can be entered.
>>>
>>> So I'm stuck with data that I have to convert, for different reasons
>>> depending on whether I use survex of therion.
>>>
>>> Here is part of the file, I have quiet a few
>>>
>>> survey
>>>
>>> centreline
>>> data normal from to clino compass tape ignoreall
>>> 1    2    1:08:25    83:37:40    17.88
>>> 2    3    00:00:00    -:-:-    0.055
>>> 3    -    02:39:00    266:49:00    3.206
>>> 3    -    314:28:20    299:57:45    2.02
>>> 3    -    16:32:25    312:13:20    1.246
>>> 3    -    06:22:35    84:16:10    1.17
>>> 3    -    309:16:45    84:15:50    1.846
>>> 3    -    55:00:10    122:44:50    0.77
>>> 3    -    325:02:55    249:55:45    1.014
>>> 3    5    359:30:50    338:07:25    16.674
>>> 5    -    306:52:00    262:23:20    1.402
>>> 5    -    59:29:30    343:51:30    1.076
>>> 5    -    305:08:25    358:34:30    1.274
>>> 5    -    315:26:20    90:51:35    1.632
>>> 5    -    29:12:45    77:01:35    1.891
>>> 5    -    19:55:50    33:02:00    3.071
>>> 5    -    348:22:35    31:08:25    3.707
>>> 5    -    350:35:20    15:31:25    4.292
>>> 5    -    13:29:35    15:31:20    4.202
>>> 5    -    12:24:50    30:20:20    7.919
>>> 5    6    17:29:05    31:28:50    6.444
>>> 6    -    307:24:35    149:47:35    1.738
>>> 6    -    344:44:40    149:45:30    1.426
>>> 6    -    77:05:35    149:36:05    1.523
>>> 6    -    306:05:00    314:12:10    0.84
>>> 6    -    353:47:50    94:54:35    2.091
>>> 6    -    00:42:00    219:31:40    5.446
>>> 6    -    18:33:50    230:03:05    4.468
>>> 6    7    12:26:05    241:13:00    4.272
>>>
>>> .....etc
>>>
>>> Anyone got a solution that does not mean I have to convert in a spreadsheet?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Andrew
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