[Therion] Therion Digest, Vol 123, Issue 5

Fri Mar 18 18:44:18 CET 2016

I tried this in my team list:    team [text Paul/"Footleg"] notes

but it appears in the PDF as:    text Paul .Footleg.,

It is the double quotes appearing as . which puzzles me. Is this a language
setting problem?

Footleg

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 10:25 AM Владимир Георгиев <vld.georgiev at gmail.com>
wrote:

> You can use double quotes like this [text "quoted text"]
>
> Vladimir
> On Mar 16, 2016 2:59 PM, "Footleg" <drfootleg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Dave,
>>
>> I didn't know that. A little more experimentation and I have noticed that
>> the position of the / determines where the name appears in the sorted names
>> lists. So
>>   team "Tim 'The Beast'/Bloggs" dog
>> makes Tim appear in alphabetical order sorted using 'Bloggs', whereas
>>   team "Tim/'The Beast' Bloggs" dog
>> put him at the start of the list as the ' character is sorted ahead of A.
>>
>> I've put this into the Tutorial. Does anyone know how to include
>> double-quotes in a name? I can't seem to escape the double-quote character.
>>
>> Footleg
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:34 AM Dave Clucas <dave.clucas at icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Note that the team members names are only allowed to contain one space
>>> character, so use hypens for double barreled names or your project will
>>> generate an error when you try to compile it.
>>>
>>> You can also use the escape character "/" to allow as may spaces as you
>>> want e.g. team "Giles /St. John Cuthbert Junior"
>>>
>>> Dave Clucas
>>> daveclucas.com
>>> sarawak-caves.com
>>> dave.clucas at icloud.com <daveclucas at icloud.com>
>>>
>>> *Exploring the World* - One cave at a time
>>>
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>>>      (Martin Sluka)
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>>>      (Footleg)
>>>   4. Re: Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and Layouts
>>>      (Martin Sluka)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:45:46 +0000
>>> From: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Therion] Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and
>>> Layouts
>>> To: List for Therion users <therion at speleo.sk>
>>> Message-ID:
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>>>
>>> Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion
>>> Tutorial.
>>> Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the
>>> recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own
>>> projects were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new
>>> lesson on defining layouts.
>>>
>>> As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened
>>> if
>>> I have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest
>>> revision. I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as
>>> several people asked for it. I'll take the time to read all the feedback
>>> I've received already and merge it into the tutorial in time.
>>>
>>> Download here (or follow the link from the Therion Wiki page):
>>> *http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/
>>> <http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/>*
>>>
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>>> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 15:34:01 +0000 (GMT)
>>> From: Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com>
>>> Subject: [Therion]  Re:  Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and
>>> Layouts
>>> To: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>
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>>> Hi Footleg,
>>>
>>> you don't show using right click with mouse when drawing scraps. It is
>>> much faster way.
>>>
>>> Drawing line - one may not draw beziers directly. It is possible to draw
>>> only points which are not "smooth" and then use "Convert to curve" feature
>>> from "Edit line" menu. There are only small correction necessary.
>>>
>>> The problem with transparency is that all viewers using Apple library
>>> and several others (Sumatra) ignore group transparency which is in
>>> definition of PDF. So it is bug. (According to?Martin Budaj).
>>>
>>> m.s.
>>>
>>> On Mar 15, 2016, at 03:46 PM, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion
>>> Tutorial. Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the
>>> recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own
>>> projects were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new
>>> lesson on defining layouts.
>>>
>>> As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened
>>> if I have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest
>>> revision. I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as
>>> several people asked for it. I'll take the time to read all the feedback
>>> I've received already and merge it into the tutorial in time.
>>>
>>> Download here (or follow the link from the Therion Wiki page):
>>> http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/
>>>
>>> Footleg
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 20:18:29 +0000
>>> From: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Therion] Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and
>>> Layouts
>>> To: Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com>
>>> Cc: therion at speleo.sk
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>>>
>>> Hi Martin,
>>>
>>> Thanks for these points. Can you clarify what you mean by using right
>>> mouse
>>> click when drawing scraps? I thought I covered the right-mouse menus for
>>> setting line options. Was there something specific I've missed, or not
>>> clear enough mention of context menus when drawing?
>>>
>>> I'm not sure where group transparency is applied in the PDFs. I see
>>> transparency working for overlying passages and for boulders drawn over
>>> area fills. At least I see it in Sumatra and FoxIt readers, but not in
>>> Adobe Acrobat Reader. Can you give examples of features where I can check
>>> whether it is working?
>>>
>>> Convert to curve is a good one. I'll find a place to add that in as I've
>>> seen a few people struggle with drawing beziers directly when we run out
>>> training courses.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Footleg
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:34 PM Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Footleg,
>>>
>>> you don't show using right click with mouse when drawing scraps. It is
>>> much faster way.
>>>
>>> Drawing line - one may not draw beziers directly. It is possible to draw
>>> only points which are not "smooth" and then use "Convert to curve"
>>> feature
>>> from "Edit line" menu. There are only small correction necessary.
>>>
>>> The problem with transparency is that all viewers using Apple library and
>>> several others (Sumatra) ignore group transparency which is in definition
>>> of PDF. So it is bug. (According to Martin Budaj).
>>>
>>> m.s.
>>>
>>> On Mar 15, 2016, at 03:46 PM, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion
>>> Tutorial.
>>> Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the
>>> recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own
>>> projects were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new
>>> lesson on defining layouts.
>>>
>>> As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened
>>> if I have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest
>>> revision. I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as
>>> several people asked for it. I'll take the time to read all the feedback
>>> I've received already and merge it into the tutorial in time.
>>>
>>> Download here (or follow the link from the Therion Wiki page):
>>> *http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/
>>> <http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/>*
>>>
>>> Footleg
>>>
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 22:15:47 +0100
>>> From: Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Therion] Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and
>>> Layouts
>>> To: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: therion at speleo.sk
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>>>
>>> 15. 3. 2016 v 21:18, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Hi Martin,
>>>
>>> Thanks for these points. Can you clarify what you mean by using right
>>> mouse click when drawing scraps? I thought I covered the right-mouse menus
>>> for setting line options. Was there something specific I've missed, or not
>>> clear enough mention of context menus when drawing?
>>>
>>>
>>> I prefer last time right click menus. It is really faster. I?ll send you
>>> screenshots I made.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure where group transparency is applied in the PDFs. I see
>>> transparency working for overlying passages and for boulders drawn over
>>> area fills. At least I see it in Sumatra and FoxIt readers, but not in
>>> Adobe Acrobat Reader. Can you give examples of features where I can check
>>> whether it is working?
>>>
>>>
>>> It is exactly as you wrote. Reader is correct, others with transparency
>>> for blocks have bug. Including Mac Prerview, Fast Preview and others Mac
>>> viewers. It is quite pity, because Fast Preview is really fast.
>>>
>>> Convert to curve is a good one. I'll find a place to add that in as I've
>>> seen a few people struggle with drawing beziers directly when we run out
>>> training courses.
>>>
>>>
>>> m.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Footleg
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:34 PM Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com
>>> <mailto:martinsluka at mac.com>> wrote:
>>> Hi Footleg,
>>>
>>> you don't show using right click with mouse when drawing scraps. It is
>>> much faster way.
>>>
>>> Drawing line - one may not draw beziers directly. It is possible to draw
>>> only points which are not "smooth" and then use "Convert to curve" feature
>>> from "Edit line" menu. There are only small correction necessary.
>>>
>>> The problem with transparency is that all viewers using Apple library
>>> and several others (Sumatra) ignore group transparency which is in
>>> definition of PDF. So it is bug. (According to Martin Budaj).
>>>
>>> m.s.
>>>
>>> On Mar 15, 2016, at 03:46 PM, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com <mailto:
>>> drfootleg at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion
>>> Tutorial. Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the
>>> recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own
>>> projects were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new
>>> lesson on defining layouts.
>>>
>>> As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened
>>> if I have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest
>>> revision. I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as
>>> several people asked for it. I'll take the time to read all the feedback
>>> I've received already and merge it into the tutorial in time.
>>>
>>> Download here (or follow the link from the Therion Wiki page):
>>> http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/ <
>>> http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/>
>>>
>>> Footleg
>>>
>>>
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