[Therion] Therion Digest, Vol 123, Issue 5

Thu Mar 17 11:25:18 CET 2016

You can use double quotes like this [text "quoted text"]

Vladimir
On Mar 16, 2016 2:59 PM, "Footleg" <drfootleg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Dave,
>
> I didn't know that. A little more experimentation and I have noticed that
> the position of the / determines where the name appears in the sorted names
> lists. So
>   team "Tim 'The Beast'/Bloggs" dog
> makes Tim appear in alphabetical order sorted using 'Bloggs', whereas
>   team "Tim/'The Beast' Bloggs" dog
> put him at the start of the list as the ' character is sorted ahead of A.
>
> I've put this into the Tutorial. Does anyone know how to include
> double-quotes in a name? I can't seem to escape the double-quote character.
>
> Footleg
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:34 AM Dave Clucas <dave.clucas at icloud.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Note that the team members names are only allowed to contain one space
>> character, so use hypens for double barreled names or your project will
>> generate an error when you try to compile it.
>>
>> You can also use the escape character "/" to allow as may spaces as you
>> want e.g. team "Giles /St. John Cuthbert Junior"
>>
>> Dave Clucas
>> daveclucas.com
>> sarawak-caves.com
>> dave.clucas at icloud.com <daveclucas at icloud.com>
>>
>> *Exploring the World* - One cave at a time
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>>   1. Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and Layouts (Footleg)
>>   2.  Re:  Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and Layouts
>>      (Martin Sluka)
>>   3. Re: Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and Layouts
>>      (Footleg)
>>   4. Re: Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and Layouts
>>      (Martin Sluka)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:45:46 +0000
>> From: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Therion] Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and
>> Layouts
>> To: List for Therion users <therion at speleo.sk>
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>> Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion Tutorial.
>> Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the
>> recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own
>> projects were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new
>> lesson on defining layouts.
>>
>> As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened
>> if
>> I have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest
>> revision. I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as
>> several people asked for it. I'll take the time to read all the feedback
>> I've received already and merge it into the tutorial in time.
>>
>> Download here (or follow the link from the Therion Wiki page):
>> *http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/
>> <http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/>*
>>
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>> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 15:34:01 +0000 (GMT)
>> From: Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com>
>> Subject: [Therion]  Re:  Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and
>> Layouts
>> To: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>
>> Cc: therion at speleo.sk
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>> Hi Footleg,
>>
>> you don't show using right click with mouse when drawing scraps. It is
>> much faster way.
>>
>> Drawing line - one may not draw beziers directly. It is possible to draw
>> only points which are not "smooth" and then use "Convert to curve" feature
>> from "Edit line" menu. There are only small correction necessary.
>>
>> The problem with transparency is that all viewers using Apple library and
>> several others (Sumatra) ignore group transparency which is in definition
>> of PDF. So it is bug. (According to?Martin Budaj).
>>
>> m.s.
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2016, at 03:46 PM, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion
>> Tutorial. Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the
>> recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own
>> projects were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new
>> lesson on defining layouts.
>>
>> As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened
>> if I have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest
>> revision. I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as
>> several people asked for it. I'll take the time to read all the feedback
>> I've received already and merge it into the tutorial in time.
>>
>> Download here (or follow the link from the Therion Wiki page):
>> http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/
>>
>> Footleg
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>> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 20:18:29 +0000
>> From: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Therion] Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and
>> Layouts
>> To: Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com>
>> Cc: therion at speleo.sk
>> Message-ID:
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>> Hi Martin,
>>
>> Thanks for these points. Can you clarify what you mean by using right
>> mouse
>> click when drawing scraps? I thought I covered the right-mouse menus for
>> setting line options. Was there something specific I've missed, or not
>> clear enough mention of context menus when drawing?
>>
>> I'm not sure where group transparency is applied in the PDFs. I see
>> transparency working for overlying passages and for boulders drawn over
>> area fills. At least I see it in Sumatra and FoxIt readers, but not in
>> Adobe Acrobat Reader. Can you give examples of features where I can check
>> whether it is working?
>>
>> Convert to curve is a good one. I'll find a place to add that in as I've
>> seen a few people struggle with drawing beziers directly when we run out
>> training courses.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Footleg
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:34 PM Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Footleg,
>>
>> you don't show using right click with mouse when drawing scraps. It is
>> much faster way.
>>
>> Drawing line - one may not draw beziers directly. It is possible to draw
>> only points which are not "smooth" and then use "Convert to curve" feature
>> from "Edit line" menu. There are only small correction necessary.
>>
>> The problem with transparency is that all viewers using Apple library and
>> several others (Sumatra) ignore group transparency which is in definition
>> of PDF. So it is bug. (According to Martin Budaj).
>>
>> m.s.
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2016, at 03:46 PM, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion Tutorial.
>> Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the
>> recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own
>> projects were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new
>> lesson on defining layouts.
>>
>> As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened
>> if I have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest
>> revision. I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as
>> several people asked for it. I'll take the time to read all the feedback
>> I've received already and merge it into the tutorial in time.
>>
>> Download here (or follow the link from the Therion Wiki page):
>> *http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/
>> <http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/>*
>>
>> Footleg
>>
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>> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 22:15:47 +0100
>> From: Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Therion] Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and
>> Layouts
>> To: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>
>> Cc: therion at speleo.sk
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>> 15. 3. 2016 v 21:18, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hi Martin,
>>
>> Thanks for these points. Can you clarify what you mean by using right
>> mouse click when drawing scraps? I thought I covered the right-mouse menus
>> for setting line options. Was there something specific I've missed, or not
>> clear enough mention of context menus when drawing?
>>
>>
>> I prefer last time right click menus. It is really faster. I?ll send you
>> screenshots I made.
>>
>> I'm not sure where group transparency is applied in the PDFs. I see
>> transparency working for overlying passages and for boulders drawn over
>> area fills. At least I see it in Sumatra and FoxIt readers, but not in
>> Adobe Acrobat Reader. Can you give examples of features where I can check
>> whether it is working?
>>
>>
>> It is exactly as you wrote. Reader is correct, others with transparency
>> for blocks have bug. Including Mac Prerview, Fast Preview and others Mac
>> viewers. It is quite pity, because Fast Preview is really fast.
>>
>> Convert to curve is a good one. I'll find a place to add that in as I've
>> seen a few people struggle with drawing beziers directly when we run out
>> training courses.
>>
>>
>> m.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Footleg
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:34 PM Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com
>> <mailto:martinsluka at mac.com>> wrote:
>> Hi Footleg,
>>
>> you don't show using right click with mouse when drawing scraps. It is
>> much faster way.
>>
>> Drawing line - one may not draw beziers directly. It is possible to draw
>> only points which are not "smooth" and then use "Convert to curve" feature
>> from "Edit line" menu. There are only small correction necessary.
>>
>> The problem with transparency is that all viewers using Apple library and
>> several others (Sumatra) ignore group transparency which is in definition
>> of PDF. So it is bug. (According to Martin Budaj).
>>
>> m.s.
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2016, at 03:46 PM, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com <mailto:
>> drfootleg at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion
>> Tutorial. Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the
>> recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own
>> projects were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new
>> lesson on defining layouts.
>>
>> As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened
>> if I have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest
>> revision. I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as
>> several people asked for it. I'll take the time to read all the feedback
>> I've received already and merge it into the tutorial in time.
>>
>> Download here (or follow the link from the Therion Wiki page):
>> http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/ <
>> http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/>
>>
>> Footleg
>>
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