[Therion] Therion Digest, Vol 112, Issue 5

Robert Countess rob.countess at gmail.com
Fri Apr 24 06:56:04 CEST 2015


Thanks I’ll check them out.


On Apr 23, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Andrew Atkinson <andrew at wotcc.org.uk> wrote:

> try
> 
> http://cave-registry.org.uk/
> 
> loads to look at there, although not all of them are Therion.
> 
> The one that I work mainly on
> 
> http://www.cave-registry.org.uk/svn/CheddarCatchment/
> 
> Meets your 4 point below, don't think that there is any data that has
> come out of Walls or Onstation. Some of it has come from compass, for
> which I wrote a script, but it was quick and dirty, probably not much
> use to others.
> 
> Gough's and Reservoir have lots of different outputs from the same data,
> with overlaps. For the output without the full understanding of Therion,
> can be found here
> 
> http://www.ubss.org.uk/cave_survey_archive.php#Cheddar
> 
> For a couple of slightly easier datasets, without the fancy outputs
> (yet) there are
> 
> http://www.cave-registry.org.uk/svn/WookeyCatchment/
> 
> http://cave-registry.org.uk/svn/Burrington/
> 
> All three are been actively worked on and with an SVN client you could
> even replay how they have been built up. I do not, however, follow the
> recommended way to arrange data, I have arranged it so every folder
> should be stand alone, I find that it has the advantage that people
> without the full understanding of Therion can work on the bits that they
> are interested in, probably has some disadvantages to putting the whole
> thing together, but I cannot say I have found it a problem
> 
> Andrew
> 
> On 23/04/15 20:57, Rob Countess wrote:
>> Does anyone mind sending me one of your data sets. It would help me
>> understand the structure and organization.
>> I have data for several cave areas on Vancouver Island BC Canada in
>> Walls and On Station. I want to convert the whole mess.
>> My data sets are
>> 
>> Glory 'ole/Arch Cave area
>>   -18 km in 4 main caves and a dozen or so smaller caves linked by
>> overland survey and GPS
>>   - longest caves are  Arch (10.6 km km 3 entrances), Glory 'ole (2.7
>> km) Pellucidar (1.9 km) Resonance (1.8 km)
>>   - Arch cave is divided into several series based on streams and
>> distinct areas of the cave
>>   - 3 caves (Glory 'ole, Resonance, and Arch) overlap in plan view (I
>> want to produce a high level map with all three caves in different
>> colours, initially just line plots but eventually real maps)
>> 
>> White Ridge
>> -7 km in 3 main caves and a half dozen smaller caves Linked by radio
>> location and GPS
>> 
>> Larch Mountain
>> 
>> 2 km in 3 main caves and a dozen smaller caves linked by GPS
>> 
>> I also have a friend that manages data for Weymer Creek (over 30 km in
>> over 100 caves, longest are 12 and 9 km lots of caves overlap in plan
>> view). I am trying to convince him to switch to Therion too.
>> 
>> I am looking for an example data set that has
>> 
>> 1) multiple caves in one caving area
>> 2) at least one cave large enough to be broken into series
>> 3) overlapping layers in at least one of the caves
>> 4) examples of files to produces different outputs with overlapping
>> caves or cave series in different colours on the same map.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Rob Countess
>> 
>> PS If you don't want to spam the mailing list then send to:
>> rob.countess at gmail.com <mailto:rob.countess at gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Xavier Pennec <Xavier.Pennec at inria.fr
>> <mailto:Xavier.Pennec at inria.fr>> wrote:
>> 
>>    if all stations have different name in Compass and Walls, could they
>>    be put in a single survey name-space?
>>    However, I agree that this is not the cleanest way as it is not
>>    respecting the structure of surveys that was previously defined.
>> 
>>    Xavier
>> 
>>    Le 22/04/2015 13:31, Martin Sluka a écrit :
>> 
>>        The problem of Compass and Walls data conversion is generate
>>        list of equate commands. In Compass and Walls it is simple,
>>        because there couldn’t be two stations with identical name. But
>>        in Therion it is not a rule. So you should to do it manually.
>> 
>>        in survey12 which is above survey1 and survey2:
>> 
>>        equal a101 at survey1 a101 at survey2
>> 
>>        m.s.
>> 
>> 
>>            19. 4. 2015 v 10:20, Robert Countess <rob.countess at gmail.com
>>            <mailto:rob.countess at gmail.com>>:
>> 
>>            <Glory.zip>
>> 
>>            This is from the Glory ‘ole caving area on Vancouver Island.
>>            I surveyed there from 1996 to 2007 in Arch Cave (10.5 km)
>>            Glory ‘ole (now 2.8 km) and Resonance (now 1.8 km). The area
>>            had been previously explored from 1980-1988 and some maps
>>            produced by hand. Much of the original data was lost. I
>>            resurveyed a few km in Arch cave and added 5 km but never
>>            completed a map due to the fact that loop closures were
>>            wreaking havoc with my walls and Illustrator attempts at a
>>            map. The original data in Arch was sketchy solo topofil
>>            survey. Resonance was extended by about 1km and an map
>>            produced but recently another half kilometre of passage has
>>            been added. Glory ‘ole was increased by about a kilometre
>>            but the main passage original survey 1.3 km needed to be
>>            resurveyed which led to no map. There are drafting leads in
>>            connection areas between the three caves. Two other caves
>>            Pellucidar and Tsulton Rising (cave dive) were managed by
>>            Pat Shaw, a cave diver.
>> 
>>            I went off to medical school in 2007 and nobody picked up
>>            the torch as far as drawing maps. Now I’m back and we are at
>>            it again. I want Therion to keep the maps up to date with
>>            the exploration going forward.
>> 
>>            The data is from 2004. I lost my 2007 copy due to 7 years of
>>            neglect and hard drive failure. I still have original notes
>>            of all exploration I was involved in but there are probably
>>            3 km of passage that should be resurveyed.
>> 
>>            I’m getting the hang of Therion and have got Resonance and
>>            Glory ‘ole centerline data converted over.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>            On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:54 AM, Martin Sluka
>>            <martinsluka at mac.com <mailto:martinsluka at mac.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>                Robert, may you send me an example of Walls data?
>> 
>>                I was surprised how simple is to convert Compass data to
>>                Therion. As I may say, Compass data are small subset of
>>                Therion’s format so several simple copy/paste made the job.
>> 
>>                m.s.
>> 
>> 
>>                    19. 4. 2015 v 6:41, Robert Countess
>>                    <rob.countess at gmail.com
>>                    <mailto:rob.countess at gmail.com>>:
>> 
>>                    Thanks for the help.
>> 
>>                    Generated my first pdf plan and profile with
>>                    UTM/elevation and xvi file for drawing map. I love
>>                    how automatic many of these things are. I am feeling
>>                    hopeful about Therion now. I am stoked to finally
>>                    finish the maps of Arch, Resonance, and Glory ‘ole
>>                    and hopefully later this summer we will connect them
>>                    all to make it at least Canada’s second longest
>>                    Cave. If I get this working, I’m sure I can convince
>>                    some other Canadian cavers to use Therion. Then
>>                    again I can’t even get them to use Walls. Many are
>>                    still using On Station. I think the speed and
>>                    flexibility of output with win them over.
>> 
>>                    One tiny annoyance. One of the surveyors last names
>>                    is von Vorkampff and Therion gives and “invalid name
>>                    format” error message. I changed it to von_Vorkampff
>>                    and bypassed the error but with sub par final map
>>                    output - it says  von.Vorkampff
>> 
>>                    Again, thanks for helping me out. I’m sure I’ll have
>>                    more questions later.
>> 
>>                    Rob Countess
>> 
>>                    On Apr 18, 2015, at 2:49 PM,
>>                    therion-request at speleo.sk
>>                    <mailto:therion-request at speleo.sk> wrote:
>> 
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>> 
>>                        Today's Topics:
>> 
>>                        1. Re: having trouble, first time user (Wookey)
>>                        2. Re: Therion Digest, Vol 112, Issue 4, having
>>                        trouble, first
>>                           time user (Robert Countess) (Dave Clucas)
>> 
>> 
>>                        ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>>                        Message: 1
>>                        Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 23:07:26 +0100
>>                        From: Wookey <wookey at wookware.org
>>                        <mailto:wookey at wookware.org>>
>>                        Subject: Re: [Therion] having trouble, first
>>                        time user
>>                        To: therion at speleo.sk <mailto:therion at speleo.sk>
>>                        Message-ID: <20150418220726.GF8982 at halon.org.uk
>>                        <mailto:20150418220726.GF8982 at halon.org.uk>>
>>                        Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> 
>>                        +++ Robert Countess [2015-04-18 12:25 -0700]:
>> 
>>                            Im using Mac OSX10.9. followed MacOSX
>>                            installation instructions on wiki
>> 
>>                            Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ ruby -e "$(curl
>>                            -fsSL https://
>>                            raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install
>>                            <http://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install>)"
>> 
>>                        [lots of dependency/package building]
>> 
>>                            ?  /usr/local/Cellar/therion/5.3.16: 6
>>                            files, 4.4M, built in 50 seconds
>>                            Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ xtherionxtherion
>>                            -bash: xtherionxtherion: command not found
>>                            Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ xtherion
>> 
>>                        This is exactly the reason that 20 years ago
>>                        binary linux
>>                        distributions were invented, to replace the
>>                        previous painful process
>>                        of users downloading code and tools and
>>                        dependencies and building
>>                        them all until they got some software working.
>>                        'brew' attempts to
>>                        automate this process but there are still a lot
>>                        of ways it can go
>>                        wrong.
>> 
>>                        Do Mac people not have a proper packaging system
>>                        someone could make
>>                        therion packages for?
>> 
>>                            _____________________________________________________
>> 
>>                            A program named WISH opened and window named
>>                            therion compiler. The Status bar
>>                            at the bottom read ?User interface is not
>>                            active. To activate it open and
>>                            existing file or create a new one."
>>                            When I try to open a file with either the
>>                            Wish file|open or the folder button
>>                            I am unable to open any files in the Demo
>>                            data set - they are all grey and
>>                            cannot be selected.
>> 
>>                            I am a first time user. Previously used On
>>                            Station and the Walls. I had data
>>                            for 3 major caving areas in Walls totalling
>>                            about 50 km of cave. I want to
>>                            switch it all to Therion but if I can?t get
>>                            the program to work then I?ll have
>>                            to stick with Walls.
>> 
>>                        I'm sure we can get you going. We do have
>>                        several mac users here, but
>>                        I'm not one so can't really provide much help.
>> 
>>                        Can you get a command prompt? Can you run
>>                        'xtherion' from there?
>>                        That's the user interface for drawing stuff up.
>> 
>>                        'therion' is the compiler tool that processes
>>                        the data. What happens
>>                        if you run 'therion -v version'? Does that print
>>                        out a version? or
>>                        'therion --print-init-file'?
>> 
>>                        If you can convert some of your (centreline)
>>                        data (just using a text
>>                        editor) you should be able process it using just
>>                        'therion'.
>> 
>>                        You will need xtherion in order to draw up cave
>>                        sections.
>> 
>>                        Has anyone written a walls to therion conversion
>>                        tool? I'm not aware of
>>                        one.
>> 
>>                        Wookey
>>                        -- 
>>                        Principal hats:  Linaro, Debian, Wookware, ARM
>>                        http://wookware.org/
>> 
>> 
>>                        ------------------------------
>> 
>>                        Message: 2
>>                        Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 22:18:41 +0100
>>                        From: Dave Clucas <dave.clucas at icloud.com
>>                        <mailto:dave.clucas at icloud.com>>
>>                        Subject: Re: [Therion] Therion Digest, Vol 112,
>>                        Issue 4, having
>>                                trouble, first time user (Robert Countess)
>>                        To: therion at speleo.sk <mailto:therion at speleo.sk>
>>                        Message-ID:
>>                        <2A55A0EF-15F8-414A-B2CB-0EA18192A198 at icloud.com
>>                        <mailto:2A55A0EF-15F8-414A-B2CB-0EA18192A198 at icloud.com>>
>>                        Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>>                        To open an existing file start Terminal and type
>>                        xtherion followed by the filename you wish to
>>                        open. You may drag the filename from a Finder
>>                        window.
>> 
>>                        Dave Clucas
>>                        daveclucas.com <http://daveclucas.com>
>>                        <http://daveclucas.com/>
>>                        sarawak-caves.com <http://sarawak-caves.com>
>>                        <http://sarawak-caves.com/>
>>                        dave.clucas at icloud.com
>>                        <mailto:dave.clucas at icloud.com>
>>                        <mailto:daveclucas at icloud.com
>>                        <mailto:daveclucas at icloud.com>>
>> 
>>                        Exploring the World - One cave at a time
>> 
>> 
>>                            On 18 Apr 2015, at 21:17,
>>                            therion-request at speleo.sk
>>                            <mailto:therion-request at speleo.sk> wrote:
>> 
>>                            Send Therion mailing list submissions to
>>                                    therion at speleo.sk
>>                            <mailto:therion at speleo.sk>
>> 
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>>                            or, via email, send a message with subject
>>                            or body 'help' to
>>                                    therion-request at speleo.sk
>>                            <mailto:therion-request at speleo.sk>
>> 
>>                            You can reach the person managing the list at
>>                                    therion-owner at speleo.sk
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>> 
>>                            When replying, please edit your Subject line
>>                            so it is more specific
>>                            than "Re: Contents of Therion digest..."
>> 
>> 
>>                            Today's Topics:
>> 
>>                            1. having trouble, first time user (Robert
>>                            Countess)
>> 
>> 
>>                            ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>>                            Message: 1
>>                            Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:25:37 -0700
>>                            From: Robert Countess
>>                            <rob.countess at gmail.com
>>                            <mailto:rob.countess at gmail.com>>
>>                            Subject: [Therion] having trouble, first
>>                            time user
>>                            To: therion at speleo.sk <mailto:therion at speleo.sk>
>>                            Message-ID:
>>                            <3EF75C43-2B28-4525-A08F-FBD57383F1AF at gmail.com
>>                            <mailto:3EF75C43-2B28-4525-A08F-FBD57383F1AF at gmail.com>>
>>                            Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>>                            Im using Mac OSX10.9. followed MacOSX
>>                            installation instructions on wiki
>> 
>>                            Installed Mactex
>>                            rebooted
>> 
>>                            Last login: Fri Apr 17 12:19:12 on console
>>                            Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ make
>>                            xcode-select: note: no developer tools were
>>                            found at '/Applications/Xcode.app',
>>                            requesting install. Choose an option in the
>>                            dialog to download the command line
>>                            developer tools.
>>                            Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$
>>                            [Restored]
>>                            Last login: Sat Apr 18 09:14:48 on console
>>                            Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$
>>                            [Restored]
>>                            Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ ruby -e "$(curl
>>                            -fsSL
>>                            https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install)"
>>                            ==> This script will install:
>>                            /usr/local/bin/brew
>>                            /usr/local/Library/...
>>                            /usr/local/share/man/man1/brew.1
>>                            ==> The following directories will be made
>>                            group writable:
>>                            /usr/local/.
>>                            /usr/local/bin
>>                            /usr/local/share
>>                            /usr/local/share/man
>>                            /usr/local/share/man/man1
>>                            ==> The following directories will have
>>                            their group set to admin:
>>                            /usr/local/.
>>                            /usr/local/bin
>>                            /usr/local/share
>>                            /usr/local/share/man
>>                            /usr/local/share/man/man1
>> 
>>                            Press RETURN to continue or any other key to
>>                            abort
>>                            ==> /usr/bin/sudo /bin/chmod g+rwx
>>                            /usr/local/. /usr/local/bin /usr/local/share
>>                            /usr/local/share/man /usr/local/share/man/man1
>> 
>>                            WARNING: Improper use of the sudo command
>>                            could lead to data loss
>>                            or the deletion of important system files.
>>                            Please double-check your
>>                            typing when using sudo. Type "man sudo" for
>>                            more information.
>> 
>>                            To proceed, enter your password, or type
>>                            Ctrl-C to abort.
>> 
>>                            Password:
>>                            ==> /usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/chgrp admin
>>                            /usr/local/. /usr/local/bin /usr/local/share
>>                            /usr/local/share/man /usr/local/share/man/man1
>>                            ==> /usr/bin/sudo /bin/mkdir
>>                            /Library/Caches/Homebrew
>>                            ==> /usr/bin/sudo /bin/chmod g+rwx
>>                            /Library/Caches/Homebrew
>>                            ==> Downloading and installing Homebrew...
>>                            remote: Counting objects: 3533, done.
>>                            remote: Compressing objects: 100%
>>                            (3387/3387), done.
>>                            remote: Total 3533 (delta 34), reused 1514
>>                            (delta 18), pack-reused 0
>>                            Receiving objects: 100% (3533/3533), 2.65
>>                            MiB | 1.55 MiB/s, done.
>>                            Resolving deltas: 100% (34/34), done.
>>                             From https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew
>>                            * [new branch]      master     -> origin/master
>>                            HEAD is now at 681c6f3 txt2tags: modernize
>>                            and add test
>>                            ==> Installation successful!
>>                            ==> Next steps
>>                            Run `brew help` to get started
>>                            Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew help
>>                            Example usage:
>>                            brew [info | home | options ] [FORMULA...]
>>                            brew install FORMULA...
>>                            brew uninstall FORMULA...
>>                            brew search [foo]
>>                            brew list [FORMULA...]
>>                            brew update
>>                            brew upgrade [FORMULA...]
>>                            brew pin/unpin [FORMULA...]
>> 
>>                            Troubleshooting:
>>                            brew doctor
>>                            brew install -vd FORMULA
>>                            brew [--env | config]
>> 
>>                            Brewing:
>>                            brew create [URL [--no-fetch]]
>>                            brew edit [FORMULA...]
>>                            open
>>                            https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/blob/master/share/doc/homebrew/Formula-Cookbook.md
>> 
>>                            Further help:
>>                            man brew
>>                            brew home
>>                            Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew update
>>                            Already up-to-date.
>>                            Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew doctor
>>                            Please note that these warnings are just
>>                            used to help the Homebrew maintainers
>>                            with debugging if you file an issue. If
>>                            everything you use Homebrew for is
>>                            working fine: please don't worry and just
>>                            ignore them. Thanks!
>> 
>>                            Warning: Some directories in
>>                            /usr/local/share/man aren't writable.
>>                            This can happen if you "sudo make install"
>>                            software that isn't managed
>>                            by Homebrew. If a brew tries to add locale
>>                            information to one of these
>>                            directories, then the install will fail
>>                            during the link step.
>>                            You should probably `chown` them:
>> 
>>                            /usr/local/share/man/de
>>                            /usr/local/share/man/de/man1
>>                            Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew tap
>>                            homebrew/science
>>                            ==> Tapping Homebrew/science
>>                            Cloning into
>>                            '/usr/local/Library/Taps/homebrew/homebrew-science'...
>>                            remote: Counting objects: 10005, done.
>>                            remote: Compressing objects: 100% (15/15), done.
>>                            remote: Total 10005 (delta 5), reused 0
>>                            (delta 0), pack-reused 9990
>>                            Receiving objects: 100% (10005/10005), 2.68
>>                            MiB | 1.56 MiB/s, done.
>>                            Resolving deltas: 100% (5584/5584), done.
>>                            Checking connectivity... done.
>>                            Tapped 475 formulae (501 files, 5.1M)
>>                            Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew install
>>                            https://raw.githubusercontent.com/un1x86/homebrew-science/therion/therion.rb
>>                            ########################################################################
>>                            100.0%
>>                            ==> Installing dependencies for therion:
>>                            libpng, freetype, xz, libtool, j
>>                            ==> Installing therion dependency: libpng
>>                            ==> Downloading
>>                            https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/libpng-1.6.17.mavericks.bot
>>                            ########################################################################
>>                            100.0%
>>                            ==> Pouring
>>                            libpng-1.6.17.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
>>                            ?  /usr/local/Cellar/libpng/1.6.17: 17
>>                            files, 1.3M
>>                            ==> Installing therion dependency: freetype
>>                            ==> Downloading
>>                            https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/freetype-2.5.5.mavericks.bo
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>>                            ?  /usr/local/Cellar/freetype/2.5.5: 60
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>>                            ?  /usr/local/Cellar/xz/5.2.1: 59 files, 1.7M
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>>                            ==> Caveats
>>                            In order to prevent conflicts with Apple's
>>                            own libtool we have prepended a "g"
>>                            so, you have instead: glibtool and glibtoolize.
>>                            ==> Summary
>>                            ?  /usr/local/Cellar/libtool/2.4.6: 69
>>                            files, 3.8M
>>                            ==> Installing therion dependency: jpeg
>>                            ==> Downloading
>>                            https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/jpeg-8d.mavericks.bottle.2.
>>                            ########################################################################
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>>                            ?  /usr/local/Cellar/jpeg/8d: 18 files, 780K
>>                            ==> Installing therion dependency: imagemagick
>>                            ==> Downloading
>>                            https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/imagemagick-6.9.1-1.maveric
>>                            ########################################################################
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>>                            ?  /usr/local/Cellar/imagemagick/6.9.1-1:
>>                            1442 files, 22M
>>                            ==> Installing therion dependency:
>>                            lcdf-typetools
>>                            ==> Downloading
>>                            http://www.lcdf.org/type/lcdf-typetools-2.104.tar.gz
>>                            ########################################################################
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>>                            ==> ./configure
>>                            --prefix=/usr/local/Cellar/lcdf-typetools/2.104
>>                            --without-kpaths
>>                            ==> make install
>>                            ?  /usr/local/Cellar/lcdf-typetools/2.104:
>>                            29 files, 4.1M, built in 20 seconds
>>                            ==> Installing therion dependency: cmake
>>                            ==> Downloading
>>                            https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/cmake-3.2.2.mavericks.bottl
>>                            ########################################################################
>>                            100.0%
>>                            ==> Pouring cmake-3.2.2.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
>>                            ?  /usr/local/Cellar/cmake/3.2.2: 1847
>>                            files, 32M
>>                            ==> Installing therion dependency: boost
>>                            ==> Downloading
>>                            https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/boost-1.57.0.mavericks.bott
>>                            ########################################################################
>>                            100.0%
>>                            ==> Pouring boost-1.57.0.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
>>                            ?  /usr/local/Cellar/boost/1.57.0: 10572
>>                            files, 439M
>>                            ==> Installing therion dependency: fontconfig
>>                            ==> Downloading
>>                            https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/fontconfig-2.11.1.mavericks
>>                            ########################################################################
>>                            100.0%
>>                            ==> Pouring
>>                            fontconfig-2.11.1.mavericks.bottle.3.tar.gz
>>                            ==>
>>                            /usr/local/Cellar/fontconfig/2.11.1/bin/fc-cache
>>                            -frv
>>                            xtherion? 
>>                            /usr/local/Cellar/fontconfig/2.11.1: 448
>>                            files, 3.6M
>>                            ==> Installing therion dependency: szip
>>                            ==> Downloading
>>                            https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/szip-2.1.mavericks.bottle.t
>>                            ########################################################################
>>                            100.0%
>>                            ==> Pouring szip-2.1.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
>>                            ?  /usr/local/Cellar/szip/2.1: 9 files, 136K
>>                            ==> Installing therion dependency: hdf5
>>                            ==> Downloading
>>                            https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles-science/hdf5-1.8.14.maveric
>>                            ########################################################################
>>                            100.0%
>>                            ==> Pouring
>>                            hdf5-1.8.14.mavericks.bottle.2.tar.gz
>>                            ?  /usr/local/Cellar/hdf5/1.8.14: 174 files, 11M
>>                            ==> Installing therion dependency: libtiff
>>                            ==> Downloading
>>                            https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/libtiff-4.0.3.mavericks.bot
>>                            ########################################################################
>>                            100.0%
>>                            ==> Pouring
>>                            libtiff-4.0.3.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz
>>                            ?  /usr/local/Cellar/libtiff/4.0.3: 254
>>                            files, 3.8M
>>                            ==> Installing therion dependency: vtk
>>                            ==> Downloading
>>                            http://www.vtk.org/files/release/6.2/VTK-6.2.0.tar.gz
>>                            ########################################################################
>>                            100.0%
>>                            ==> cmake -DCMAKE_C_FLAGS_RELEASE=
>>                            -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS_RELEASE= -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PR
>>                            ==> make
>>                            xtherion
>>                            ==> make install
>>                            ==> Caveats
>>                            Even without the --with-qt option, you can
>>                            display native VTK render windows
>>                            from python. Alternatively, you can
>>                            integrate the RenderWindowInteractor
>>                            in PyQt, PySide, Tk or Wx at runtime. Read more:
>>                            import vtk.qt4; help(vtk.qt4) or import
>>                            vtk.wx; help(vtk.wx)
>> 
>> 
>>                            Python modules have been installed and
>>                            Homebrew's site-packages is not
>>                            in your Python sys.path, so you will not be
>>                            able to import the modules
>>                            this formula installed. If you plan to
>>                            develop with these modules,
>>                            please run:
>>                            mkdir -p
>>                            /Users/Rob/Library/Python/2.7/lib/python/site-packages
>>                            echo 'import site;
>>                            site.addsitedir("/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages")'
>>>> 
>>                            /Users/Rob/Library/Python/2.7/lib/python/site-packages/homebrew.pth
>>                            ==> Summary
>>                            ?  /usr/local/Cellar/vtk/6.2.0: 3186 files,
>>                            125M, built in 21.4 minutes
>>                            ==> Installing therion dependency: wxmac
>>                            ==> Downloading
>>                            https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/wxmac-3.0.2.mavericks.bottl
>>                            ########################################################################
>>                            100.0%
>>                            ==> Pouring
>>                            wxmac-3.0.2.mavericks.bottle.9.tar.gz
>>                            ?  /usr/local/Cellar/wxmac/3.0.2: 777 files, 41M
>>                            ==> Installing therion
>>                            ==> Downloading
>>                            http://therion.speleo.sk/downloads/therion-5.3.16.tar.gz
>>                            ########################################################################
>>                            100.0%
>>                            ==> make config-macosx
>>                            ==> make
>>                            ==> make install
>>                            ?  /usr/local/Cellar/therion/5.3.16: 6
>>                            files, 4.4M, built in 50 seconds
>>                            Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ xtherionxtherion
>>                            -bash: xtherionxtherion: command not found
>>                            Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ xtherion
>> 
>>                            _____________________________________________________
>> 
>>                            A program named WISH opened and window named
>>                            therion compiler. The Status bar at the
>>                            bottom read ?User interface is not active.
>>                            To activate it open and existing file or
>>                            create a new one."
>>                            When I try to open a file with either the
>>                            Wish file|open or the folder button I am
>>                            unable to open any files in the Demo data
>>                            set - they are all grey and cannot be selected.
>> 
>>                            I am a first time user. Previously used On
>>                            Station and the Walls. I had data for 3
>>                            major caving areas in Walls totalling about
>>                            50 km of cave. I want to switch it all to
>>                            Therion but if I can?t get the program to
>>                            work then I?ll have to stick with Walls.
>> 
>>                            Rob Countess
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>> 
>>        -------------------------
>>        Xavier Pennec
>>        Senior Research Scientist / Directeur de recherche
>>        Asclepios project-team, INRIA Sophia-Antipolis
>>        2004 Route des Lucioles, BP93
>>        F-06902 Sophia-Antipolis Cedex, France
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