[Therion] Duplicates including adding splays?

Stacho Mudrak lists at group-s.sk
Tue Jun 21 18:22:06 CEST 2011


This bug should be also fixed now in 5.3.8. If not, please let me know.

S.

On 13 June 2011 10:00, Stacho Mudrak <lists at group-s.sk> wrote:
> It looks like a bug, they should not be used for depth. I will try to fix
> it.
>
> Thanks, S.
>
> On 13 June 2011 08:28, marco corvi <marco.corvi at elsagdatamat.com> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with bruce.
>>
>> also noticed that splay shots are used for the "depth".
>> it might make sense, but  i rather have the depth
>> computed with the survey shots only.
>>
>> marco.
>>
>> On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 08:44 +1200, Bruce wrote:
>> > Hi Andrew
>> > Yes, when splay shots to an unlabelled station such as '-' are included
>> > in a
>> > dataset, such as when using a distoX or similar, the statistics do not
>> > make
>> > that much sense to me. I think it still works the way you describe in
>> > 5.3.7.
>> >
>> > To my way of thinking, splay shots are not part of the survey length
>> > (and
>> > therefore should not be duplicate either), they are analogous to LRUD.
>> >  IF
>> > they are to be reported, they should be separately reported as 'total
>> > splay
>> > length' and 'number of splay stations' (could be further broken down
>> > into
>> > 'surface splays' and 'cave splays' if one was being picky).
>> >
>> > If there were to be a compromise for the sake of simplicity I would
>> > prefer
>> > that therion exclude splay information from all the reported statistics
>> > (as
>> > it ignores LRUD, which are really just special splay shots), rather than
>> > the
>> > apparently selective way the splay shots are currently included.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Bruce
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces at speleo.sk] On
>> > Behalf
>> > Of Andrew Atkinson
>> > Sent: Monday, 13 June 2011 6:10 a.m.
>> > To: List for Therion users
>> > Subject: [Therion] Duplicates including adding splays?
>> >
>> > Hello
>> >
>> > Therion 5.3.5 ubuntu 10.04
>> >
>> > In the attached file the following information is given about the survey
>> >
>> > title: RhinoPassage
>> > length: 189.07m (surface 0.00m, duplicated 24.58m)
>> > vertical range: 20.51m (from 1.27 at RhinoPassage at 20.38m to
>> > 1.3 at RhinoPassage at -0.13m)
>> > north-south range: 92.47m (from 1.27 at RhinoPassage at 33.43m to
>> > 1.53 at RhinoPassage at -59.04m)
>> > east-west range: 66.67m (from 1.53 at RhinoPassage at 66.67m to
>> > 1.0 at RhinoPassage at 0.00m)
>> > number of shots: 281
>> > number of stations: 282
>> >
>> > The duplicate figure got me wondering, it seems to be counting the
>> > splays but the length does not. As the duplicate none splays are only
>> > about 10m.
>> > Maybe this is what is wanted, but I personally think that the duplicate
>> > value should be the amount taken off the length by the duplicate flag?
>> > Ie why is length treated differently to duplicate (something to do with
>> > the way survex treated splays and duplicate as different, I think that
>> > splays are not included in extend in survex)
>> >
>> > Maybe 2 figures would be better, duplicate length and duplicate splays.
>> >
>> > {probably best to ignore this next bit}
>> > Oh this leads to all sorts of thinks that are really not important, like
>> > maybe giving the length of all the splays, and the number of stations,
>> > is it really 282 or really 54. All depends on your definition I guess
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >
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