[Therion] Loch 5.3.7 fails to start in Debian wheezy

[Andrew Atkinson]

What sort of graphics card have you got? (and which
> drivers/kernel)

lshw gives
            *-display
                 description: VGA compatible controller
                 product: G71 [GeForce 7300 GS]
                 vendor: nVidia Corporation
                 physical id: 0
                 bus info: pci at 0000:01:00.0
                 version: a1
                 width: 64 bits
                 clock: 33MHz
                 capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller 
bus_master cap_list rom
                 configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
                 resources: irq:16 memory:e1000000-e1ffffff 
memory:d0000000-dfffffff memory:e0000000-e0ffffff

lspci give

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7300 
GS] (rev a1)

If I have this right the install put on
X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver (experimental)
1:0.0.16+git20110411+8378443-1+b1

Thought the drive might be a problem so tired installing

nvidia-kernel-common 20110515+1

Now I am not positive this was the right thing, and I have no idea how 
to check to see which one is in use, which might help to see if it is 
the right one, as the other one is still there! There are a plethora of 
nvidia things I could install, including nvidia-settings and 
nvidia-xconfig, butnot found much of use on the internet about what does 
what

I notice that
nvidia-kernel-common 20110515+2

is available, but I have not played with forcing yet, and the graphics 
driver seems a poor one to start with.





Can you save the info from the Aven 'about' window -
> that can be helpful.

Linux 2.6.39-2-amd64 x86_64
wxWidgets 2.8.10 (GTK+ >= 2.6)
Display Depth: 24 bpp (colour)
OpenGL 2.1 Mesa 7.10.2
Mesa Project
Software Rasterizer
R8G8B8
Max Texture size: 16384x16384
Max Viewport size: 16384x16384
Smooth Point Size 1.000-60.000 (granularity 0.100)
Aliased point size 1.000-60.000
GL_ARB_copy_buffer GL_ARB_depth_clamp GL_ARB_depth_texture 
GL_ARB_draw_buffers GL_ARB_draw_elements_base_vertex 
GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location GL_ARB_fragment_coord_conventions 
GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow 
GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_framebuffer_object GL_ARB_half_float_pixel 
GL_ARB_half_float_vertex GL_ARB_map_buffer_range GL_ARB_multisample 
GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_occlusion_query GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object 
GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_provoking_vertex 
GL_ARB_shader_objects GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_shadow_ambient 
GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_sync GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp 
GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map 
GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine 
GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 
GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two 
GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_texture_rg GL_ARB_texture_swizzle 
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_array_bgra 
GL_ARB_vertex_array_object GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object 
GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_ARB_window_pos GL_EXT_abgr 
GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate 
GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_logic_op GL_EXT_blend_minmax 
GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_copy_texture 
GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test GL_EXT_draw_buffers2 GL_EXT_draw_range_elements 
GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample 
GL_EXT_framebuffer_object GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters 
GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil 
GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_paletted_texture GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object 
GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_polygon_offset GL_EXT_provoking_vertex 
GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color 
GL_EXT_separate_shader_objects GL_EXT_separate_specular_color 
GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette 
GL_EXT_stencil_two_side GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_subtexture 
GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_array GL_EXT_texture_cube_map 
GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_add 
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 
GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp 
GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_texture GL_EXT_texture_rectangle 
GL_EXT_texture_sRGB GL_EXT_texture_swizzle GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra 
GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_OES_read_format GL_3DFX_texture_compression_FXT1 
GL_APPLE_object_purgeable GL_APPLE_packed_pixels 
GL_APPLE_vertex_array_object GL_ATI_blend_equation_separate 
GL_ATI_envmap_bumpmap GL_ATI_fragment_shader GL_ATI_separate_stencil 
GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3 GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once 
GL_IBM_multimode_draw_arrays GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip 
GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_INGR_blend_func_separate 
GL_MESA_pack_invert GL_MESA_resize_buffers GL_MESA_texture_array 
GL_MESA_window_pos GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture GL_NV_blend_square 
GL_NV_conditional_render GL_NV_depth_clamp GL_NV_fragment_program 
GL_NV_fragment_program_option GL_NV_light_max_exponent 
GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil GL_NV_point_sprite GL_NV_texgen_reflection 
GL_NV_texture_env_combine4 GL_NV_texture_rectangle 
GL_NV_vertex_program1_1 GL_NV_vertex_program GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap 
GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp 
GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SGI_texture_color_table GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays
>
> This is going to be difficult to debug remotely if I can't reproduce.

Time for a remote control program that works across the web, been 
looking for one that works on linux, easy to do on Windows nowadays :(
>
> There should be some wxgtk samples/demos you can run which would show
> if it is a wx problem or a loch problem. (loch uses VTK, which uses WX).
>

A bit more of a pointer could be useful, but I will see what I can find

>
> Another thing to try is
> strace loch<filename>  2>&1>  therion.strace.log

strace not found? : fixed that

You meant

strace -o therion.strace.log loch

the command you cave me just dumped it on the screen and made an empty 
file. (So I resorted to the manual!)

Also found xtrace, which might be useful, but the manual did not mean 
much to me, but was about display outputs, it did complain that I did 
not specify a display, but at least gave the out the file

Available from

http://www.ubss.org.uk/__therion/
>
>
> There is also therion 5.3.8 in unstable. Add that repo and you should
> be able to  do
> aptitude install therion/unstable
>
> and try that one. It's very unlikely to be different in the graphics
> area though.

# aptitude install therion/unstable
Unable to find an archive "unstable" for the package "therion"
Unable to find an archive "unstable" for the package "therion"
The following packages will be REMOVED:
   abiword{u} abiword-common{u} abiword-plugin-grammar{u}
   abiword-plugin-mathview{u} aptdaemon{u} aumix{u} aumix-common{u}
.
.
.
   xfce4-verve-plugin{u} xfce4-wavelan-plugin{u} xfce4-weather-plugin{u}
   xfce4-xkb-plugin{u} xfprint4{u} xli{u}
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 207 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 376 MB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]

I chose not too

Andrew