I just noticed yesterday's development update. An amazing effort Rodrigo, adding all of those new symbols. They will be much appreciated I am sure - I can already think of existing maps of mine that I might update as a result. I don't want to be too picky, but I wonder about the use of plural 's' in for some of the symbol names. I have attached a screenshot of the Therion Book page 24. I think symbols such as 'discs-pillars' should instead be named 'disc-pillars'. But of course English being English there are exceptions to the pattern, such as 'pillars-with-curtains' and 'stalactites-stalagmites' which are probably OK. Bruce
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Tuesday, December 17, 2019 4:10 PM, Bruce Mutton <bruce@tomo.co.nz> wrote:
I don’t want to be too picky, but I wonder about the use of plural ‘s’ in for some of the symbol names. I have attached a screenshot of the Therion Book page 24.
I think symbols such as ‘discs-pillars’ should instead be named ‘disc-pillars’.
But of course English being English there are exceptions to the pattern, such as ‘pillars-with-curtains’ and ‘stalactites-stalagmites’ which are probably OK.
It's really good to have more eyes on it as, with many symbols, some issues remain for sure. Please send me your notes about the new symbols. I already have some notes from Stacho that I wil incoporate ASAP. I can deal with yours in the sequence. Regards, Rodrigo
Thanks a lot Rodrigo for you contribution! I have merged almost all new symbols to development snapshot, but I have also some doubts about how some symbols should be called. For example, until now, there was a "disk" symbol in therion (or in english it is called sometimes also shield). But it is something completely different (from morphological point of view) as a disc on stalactite. Here in Slovakia we call it like "water level flowstone" - but it would be complicated to name for this symbol. So is the "disc-stalactite" OK in English? Another symbol: point plus|minus|plus-minus currently, for "plus" and "minus" there is: point height -value + point height -value - and there is no symbol for point +-. So I suggest to add "point height -value +-" and make a circle version of point height. Do some of you have any other suggestions? S. On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 at 20:11, Bruce Mutton <bruce@tomo.co.nz> wrote:
I just noticed yesterday’s development update.
An amazing effort Rodrigo, adding all of those new symbols. They will be much appreciated I am sure – I can already think of existing maps of mine that I might update as a result.
I don’t want to be too picky, but I wonder about the use of plural ‘s’ in for some of the symbol names. I have attached a screenshot of the Therion Book page 24.
I think symbols such as ‘discs-pillars’ should instead be named ‘disc-pillars’.
But of course English being English there are exceptions to the pattern, such as ‘pillars-with-curtains’ and ‘stalactites-stalagmites’ which are probably OK.
Bruce
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Here in Slovakia we call it like "water level flowstone" - but it would be complicated to name for this symbol. So is the "disc-stalactite" OK in English?
I can only speak for what I have heard in the UK. We call these "pom poms" after a famous stalactite called "The Pom Pom" in South Wales. (In turn, this is named after the thing cheerleaders hold.) I imagine that in the USA they will use a completely different name. However, we don't really seem to have a generic name for the effect. The rafts that float are called "calcite rafts", but the ones that are stuck to a stalactite at the water's level don't have a formal name that I have heard. Maybe someone from the BCRA could say... "Water level growths" is probably as good as anything, but far too long for Therion.
Another symbol: point plus|minus|plus-minus currently, for "plus" and "minus" there is: point height -value + point height -value - and there is no symbol for point +-. So I suggest to add "point height -value +-" and make a circle version of point height.
There is already a +- round text ornamentation. It is used whenever the p_label_mode is p_label_mode_passageheightposneg, which I think is only "point passageheight:both". Tarquin
There is a book published after 30 years work of prof. Vladimír Panoš, book named Karsologická a speleologická terminologie, it means "Karsologic and Speleologic Terminology". There are names of such terms in English, French, Italian, German, Russian and Spanish. The explanation is only in Czech but you may use online translator. There are more than 2000 entries there. I’m sure you may find it online as PDF, but as printed book it is in many libraries around the world. Maybe this may help. Martin
17. 12. 2019 v 22:15, Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion <therion@speleo.sk>:
Here in Slovakia we call it like "water level flowstone" - but it would be complicated to name for this symbol. So is the "disc-stalactite" OK in English?
I can only speak for what I have heard in the UK. We call these "pom poms" after a famous stalactite called "The Pom Pom" in South Wales. (In turn, this is named after the thing cheerleaders hold.) I imagine that in the USA they will use a completely different name.
However, we don't really seem to have a generic name for the effect. The rafts that float are called "calcite rafts", but the ones that are stuck to a stalactite at the water's level don't have a formal name that I have heard. Maybe someone from the BCRA could say...
"Water level growths" is probably as good as anything, but far too long for Therion.
Another symbol: point plus|minus|plus-minus currently, for "plus" and "minus" there is: point height -value + point height -value - and there is no symbol for point +-. So I suggest to add "point height -value +-" and make a circle version of point height.
There is already a +- round text ornamentation. It is used whenever the p_label_mode is p_label_mode_passageheightposneg, which I think is only "point passageheight:both".
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