Therion et al on Win 7 or 8.1
I'm staring down the barrel of having to migrate away from Windows XP. To help me get started on the decision making process, are there any tales of terror or reassurance from the Therion family of application users with Win7 or Win8.1? To name a few applications that need to integrate well, a text editor (in my case Notepad++), Therion, Survex, PocketTopo, Topparser and Foxit or Adobe pdf readers. For example Michael had (has?) a problem where Win7 will not open thconfig files from the os explorer window, whereas windows xp works fine. I think it gets stuck with wish84 as I mentioned on http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/windows Bruce
Hi Bruce, I am running Notepad++, Therion, Survex, PocketTopo, Topparser and Adobe readers in Win7 without problem. It took me a while to find a workaround the problem with the config file but I finally found out that renaming the config file with a th extension (e.g. mycave.thconfig -> mycave_thconfig.th) was the solution as xtherion recognizes it as a config file and opens it automatically in the right config window. I have no clue about Win8.1. Xavier Le 04/12/2013 08:26, Bruce a écrit :
I'm staring down the barrel of having to migrate away from Windows XP.
To help me get started on the decision making process, are there any tales of terror or reassurance from the Therion family of application users with Win7 or Win8.1?
To name a few applications that need to integrate well, a text editor (in my case Notepad++), Therion, Survex, PocketTopo, Topparser and Foxit or Adobe pdf readers.
For example Michael had (has?) a problem where Win7 will not open thconfig files from the os explorer window, whereas windows xp works fine. I think it gets stuck with wish84 as I mentioned on http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/windows
Bruce
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I have been using most of those applications on Windows 7 on both 32bit and 64bit machines with no problems for several years. My recent upgrade of a laptop to Windows 8 resulted in me being unable to run either Aven (the Survex model viewer) or Loch. But the recent free upgrade to Windows 8.1 fixed both those issues for me (an some other graphics rendering applications which had the same issue of crashing on launch). So now I am seeing no issues with any of these applications on Windows 8.1 (32 bit) on the laptop. Footleg On 4 December 2013 07:26, Bruce <bruce@tomo.co.nz> wrote:
I’m staring down the barrel of having to migrate away from Windows XP.
To help me get started on the decision making process, are there any tales of terror or reassurance from the Therion family of application users with Win7 or Win8.1?
To name a few applications that need to integrate well, a text editor (in my case Notepad++), Therion, Survex, PocketTopo, Topparser and Foxit or Adobe pdf readers.
For example Michael had (has?) a problem where Win7 will not open thconfig files from the os explorer window, whereas windows xp works fine. I think it gets stuck with wish84 as I mentioned on http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/windows
Bruce
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I should add that I use the Sumatra PDF reader on Windows as it is the only PDF reader I have found on Windows which correctly renders my Therion generated PDFs without locking the file. So I can recompile my projects without needing to close the PDF viewer and the PDF is refreshed in the Sumatra window automatically, making for a much smoother workflow. Footleg On 4 December 2013 10:07, Footleg <drfootleg@gmail.com> wrote:
I have been using most of those applications on Windows 7 on both 32bit and 64bit machines with no problems for several years. My recent upgrade of a laptop to Windows 8 resulted in me being unable to run either Aven (the Survex model viewer) or Loch. But the recent free upgrade to Windows 8.1 fixed both those issues for me (an some other graphics rendering applications which had the same issue of crashing on launch). So now I am seeing no issues with any of these applications on Windows 8.1 (32 bit) on the laptop.
Footleg
On 4 December 2013 07:26, Bruce <bruce@tomo.co.nz> wrote:
I’m staring down the barrel of having to migrate away from Windows XP.
To help me get started on the decision making process, are there any tales of terror or reassurance from the Therion family of application users with Win7 or Win8.1?
To name a few applications that need to integrate well, a text editor (in my case Notepad++), Therion, Survex, PocketTopo, Topparser and Foxit or Adobe pdf readers.
For example Michael had (has?) a problem where Win7 will not open thconfig files from the os explorer window, whereas windows xp works fine. I think it gets stuck with wish84 as I mentioned on http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/windows
Bruce
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+++ Footleg [2013-12-04 10:11 +0000]:
I should add that I use the Sumatra PDF reader on Windows as it is the only PDF reader I have found on Windows which correctly renders my Therion generated PDFs without locking the file. So I can recompile my projects without needing to close the PDF viewer and the PDF is refreshed in the Sumatra window automatically, making for a much smoother workflow. Footleg
Did you try evince? That solves the Adobe locking problem, and I didn't see rendering issues, but I've not used it seriously. Wookey -- Principal hats: Linaro, Emdebian, Wookware, Balloonboard, ARM http://wookware.org/
I did try evince. I think it was the one which struggled to render what I wanted (limited zoom). Foxit locked files on Windows, but I don't think it does on Linux? Footleg
+++ Bruce [2013-12-04 20:26 +1300]:
I’m staring down the barrel of having to migrate away from Windows XP.
To help me get started on the decision making process, are there any tales of terror or reassurance from the Therion family of application users with Win7 or Win8.1?
I shall just point out that world's best-maintained cave-surveying operating system is (IMHO) Debian, so if you have to change OS you should at least consider that one. Wookey -- Principal hats: Linaro, Emdebian, Wookware, Balloonboard, ARM http://wookware.org/
A good response then, thank you all very much... even though I could hear the disguised sneer in the Mac user's comment! ;) It seems that Win7, 8.1 and Debian are all contenders for a Therion user. This may be getting off topic... My needs are; -low risk, I cannot afford an interruption that requires me to focus my whole attention before 'life as usual' can resume, -resistance to change, I have many spreadsheets with embedded VBA that run only on Excel 2000-2003 for Windows (and some other apps) (thanks to my misplaced trust in Microsoft's forward compatibility). I need to dump my existing XP environment 'exactly as is' into a virtual machine, -low intensity, a migration that enables me to trickle my many applications to the new os at my leisure over time (unless it can do it automatically in one go), -for the developing artist in the family; to run the latest wacom drawing tablets (which XP does not) While the Windows options might seem to be the natural choice for a Windows user of 20 years, my testing of the waters to date suggests that Debian may not be much more of a shock than the new Windows. Apart from my legacy of Windows knowledge, and data that depends on Windows apps I would go there in a moment. I just lack the time to do a lot of relearning and a local Debian mentor I think. I am a bit worried though, about the amount of time it took Therion 5.3.11 to turn up in Debian! I'd like to 'upgrade in place' on the same machine, but I think that violates my first point above, so I guess I'm up for a new computer, at least for the duration of the migration. Wookey, can Wine or Virtualbox receive an intact XP system? It seems to me it requires a fresh reinstall of Windows and all the apps? Currently I'm hunting around for solutions like zinstall, but any suggestions welcomed. Bruce PS - I see two Notepad++ users - is that coincidence because it is good software? Or because of the entry in the Therion wiki?
Bruce, it was comment of user of XP which had to start use W7 and tested a bit W8. :/ Odesláno z iPhonu 5. 12. 2013 v 6:31, Bruce <bruce@tomo.co.nz>:
A good response then, thank you all very much... even though I could hear the disguised sneer in the Mac user's comment! ;)
It seems that Win7, 8.1 and Debian are all contenders for a Therion user.
This may be getting off topic...
My needs are; -low risk, I cannot afford an interruption that requires me to focus my whole attention before 'life as usual' can resume,
-resistance to change, I have many spreadsheets with embedded VBA that run only on Excel 2000-2003 for Windows (and some other apps) (thanks to my misplaced trust in Microsoft's forward compatibility). I need to dump my existing XP environment 'exactly as is' into a virtual machine,
-low intensity, a migration that enables me to trickle my many applications to the new os at my leisure over time (unless it can do it automatically in one go),
-for the developing artist in the family; to run the latest wacom drawing tablets (which XP does not)
While the Windows options might seem to be the natural choice for a Windows user of 20 years, my testing of the waters to date suggests that Debian may not be much more of a shock than the new Windows. Apart from my legacy of Windows knowledge, and data that depends on Windows apps I would go there in a moment. I just lack the time to do a lot of relearning and a local Debian mentor I think.
I am a bit worried though, about the amount of time it took Therion 5.3.11 to turn up in Debian!
I'd like to 'upgrade in place' on the same machine, but I think that violates my first point above, so I guess I'm up for a new computer, at least for the duration of the migration.
Wookey, can Wine or Virtualbox receive an intact XP system? It seems to me it requires a fresh reinstall of Windows and all the apps?
Currently I'm hunting around for solutions like zinstall, but any suggestions welcomed.
Bruce
PS - I see two Notepad++ users - is that coincidence because it is good software? Or because of the entry in the Therion wiki?
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