If any of you also have some time, you might also enjoy(!) the on-going discussion here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2011_Nov... Short summary: I gave up trying to put cave location coordinates into the {infobox cave} template, because the yanks are so against the idea that they can't even leave it blank for other people to use, so I invented {infobox ukcave} for the purpose of being none of their business. But now I've annoyed another bunch of people who can't handle having two infoboxes for the same thing! Please insert your comments into that debate if you can. It can't get any worse. Julian. On 28 November 2011 05:30, Martin Sluka <martinsluka@mac.com> wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Wikipedia:WikiProject_Caves<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Caves>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Therion_(software)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therion_(software)>

Just to know

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