In the latest project in which I am involved, I am having to import data from Survex (actually from Compass via Survex but that's another story!). This requires importing survex 3d files. The problem that I have is that .3d files generated in the most recent iterations of Survex cannot be read by Therion. I had the same problem some years back & eventually they caught up with each other, but it seems that the Survex format has changed too much once again. Can this be rectified, please 'cos it's a pain in the bum. Graham
+++ Graham Mullan [2014-01-15 14:48 -0000]:
In the latest project in which I am involved, I am having to import data from Survex (actually from Compass via Survex but that's another story!). This requires importing survex 3d files. The problem that I have is that .3d files generated in the most recent iterations of Survex cannot be read by Therion. I had the same problem some years back & eventually they caught up with each other, but it seems that the Survex format has changed too much once again. Can this be rectified, please 'cos it's a pain in the bum.
I already fixed this in Debian, and the necessary patch is here: http://sources.debian.net/src/therion/5.3.11-2/debian/patches/update-survex-... There an uptodate 5.3.12 version in here: http://www.wookware.org/software/repo/pool/main/t/therion/therion_5.3.12-1.d... (That's not uploaded officially yet as I'm trying to solve the tk-img missing background image issue first) ( http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=718294 ) Wookey -- Principal hats: Linaro, Emdebian, Wookware, Balloonboard, ARM http://wookware.org/
+++ Wookey [2014-01-15 14:57 +0000]:
+++ Graham Mullan [2014-01-15 14:48 -0000]:
In the latest project in which I am involved, I am having to import data from Survex (actually from Compass via Survex but that's another story!). This requires importing survex 3d files. The problem that I have is that .3d files generated in the most recent iterations of Survex cannot be read by Therion. I had the same problem some years back & eventually they caught up with each other, but it seems that the Survex format has changed too much once again. Can this be rectified, please 'cos it's a pain in the bum.
I already fixed this in Debian, and the necessary patch is here: http://sources.debian.net/src/therion/5.3.11-2/debian/patches/update-survex-...
There an uptodate 5.3.12 version in here: http://www.wookware.org/software/repo/pool/main/t/therion/therion_5.3.12-1.d...
(That's not uploaded officially yet as I'm trying to solve the tk-img missing background image issue first) ( http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=718294 )
Sorry, forgot to go on to say that I realise this isn't directly very useful to Graham or other Windows users, but it does mean that it should be very easy for the developers to just apply that and rebuild the Windows version. Wookey -- Principal hats: Linaro, Emdebian, Wookware, Balloonboard, ARM http://wookware.org/
Hi Graham, I have the same scenario (some of my Therion projects import a Survex 3d file to define the centreline. The easiest solution is to use the version switch when generating the 3d files to generate the 3d file version which Therion can read. I wrote a batch file with the following line to do this for my main project: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Survex\cavern.exe" -v7 mycavedata.svx Other more technical solutions may enable Therion to read the newer format 3D files (I expect Wookey is already typing something about the Debian version as I write this!) Footleg On 15 January 2014 14:48, Graham Mullan <graham.mullan@coly.org.uk> wrote:
In the latest project in which I am involved, I am having to import data from Survex (actually from Compass via Survex but that's another story!). This requires importing survex 3d files. The problem that I have is that .3d files generated in the most recent iterations of Survex cannot be read by Therion. I had the same problem some years back & eventually they caught up with each other, but it seems that the Survex format has changed too much once again.
Can this be rectified, please 'cos it's a pain in the bum.
Graham
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Graham The Windows solution is to either install Survex 1.2.6 (I think) which produces -v7 format .3d files, or use a current version of Survex and tell it to produce -v7 format, either Footleg' sway or as I just added to the wiki http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/faq#how_to_pass_survex_command_line_p arameters_using_therion Bruce _____ From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Graham Mullan Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2014 3:49 a.m. To: therion@speleo.sk Subject: [Therion] Compatibility with Survex In the latest project in which I am involved, I am having to import data from Survex (actually from Compass via Survex but that's another story!). This requires importing survex 3d files. The problem that I have is that .3d files generated in the most recent iterations of Survex cannot be read by Therion. I had the same problem some years back & eventually they caught up with each other, but it seems that the Survex format has changed too much once again. Can this be rectified, please 'cos it's a pain in the bum. Graham
Thanks Bruce. Just to be completely clear in case anyone is confused, the fix which Bruce has documented on the wiki is for when Therion is using Survex to generate centreline coordinates from survey data entered into Therion project files. My 'generate the 3d file using the -v7 argument' fix is for projects where you import an already generated 3d file into the Therion project to define the survey centreline (e.g. Within the 'survey' block: import West_Kingsdale_System.3d -surveys use -cs OSGB:SD ) Footleg On 15 January 2014 17:46, Bruce <bruce@tomo.co.nz> wrote:
Graham
The Windows solution is to either install Survex 1.2.6 (I think) which produces –v7 format .3d files, or
use a current version of Survex and tell it to produce –v7 format, either Footleg’ sway or as I just added to the wiki
http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/faq#how_to_pass_survex_command_line_p...
Bruce
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*From:* therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] *On Behalf Of *Graham Mullan *Sent:* Thursday, 16 January 2014 3:49 a.m. *To:* therion@speleo.sk *Subject:* [Therion] Compatibility with Survex
In the latest project in which I am involved, I am having to import data from Survex (actually from Compass via Survex but that's another story!). This requires importing survex 3d files. The problem that I have is that .3d files generated in the most recent iterations of Survex cannot be read by Therion. I had the same problem some years back & eventually they caught up with each other, but it seems that the Survex format has changed too much once again.
Can this be rectified, please 'cos it's a pain in the bum.
Graham
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FYI, Stacho is working on the issue so expect updated source/Windows build soon. 15. 1. 2014 v 19:17, Footleg <drfootleg@gmail.com>:
Thanks Bruce.
Just to be completely clear in case anyone is confused, the fix which Bruce has documented on the wiki is for when Therion is using Survex to generate centreline coordinates from survey data entered into Therion project files. My 'generate the 3d file using the -v7 argument' fix is for projects where you import an already generated 3d file into the Therion project to define the survey centreline (e.g. Within the 'survey' block: import West_Kingsdale_System.3d -surveys use -cs OSGB:SD )
Footleg
On 15 January 2014 17:46, Bruce <bruce@tomo.co.nz> wrote: Graham
The Windows solution is to either install Survex 1.2.6 (I think) which produces –v7 format .3d files, or
use a current version of Survex and tell it to produce –v7 format, either Footleg’ sway or as I just added to the wiki
http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/faq#how_to_pass_survex_command_line_p...
Bruce
From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Graham Mullan Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2014 3:49 a.m. To: therion@speleo.sk Subject: [Therion] Compatibility with Survex
In the latest project in which I am involved, I am having to import data from Survex (actually from Compass via Survex but that's another story!). This requires importing survex 3d files. The problem that I have is that .3d files generated in the most recent iterations of Survex cannot be read by Therion. I had the same problem some years back & eventually they caught up with each other, but it seems that the Survex format has changed too much once again.
Can this be rectified, please 'cos it's a pain in the bum.
Graham
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I have upgraded survex img parser in 5.3.13 version released few minutes ago. No other important changes have been made. S. On 15 January 2014 23:15, Ladislav Blažek <lada@blazcata.cz> wrote:
FYI, Stacho is working on the issue so expect updated source/Windows build soon.
15. 1. 2014 v 19:17, Footleg <drfootleg@gmail.com>:
Thanks Bruce.
Just to be completely clear in case anyone is confused, the fix which Bruce has documented on the wiki is for when Therion is using Survex to generate centreline coordinates from survey data entered into Therion project files. My 'generate the 3d file using the -v7 argument' fix is for projects where you import an already generated 3d file into the Therion project to define the survey centreline (e.g. Within the 'survey' block: import West_Kingsdale_System.3d -surveys use -cs OSGB:SD )
Footleg
On 15 January 2014 17:46, Bruce <bruce@tomo.co.nz> wrote:
Graham
The Windows solution is to either install Survex 1.2.6 (I think) which produces –v7 format .3d files, or
use a current version of Survex and tell it to produce –v7 format, either Footleg’ sway or as I just added to the wiki
http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/faq#how_to_pass_survex_command_line_p...
Bruce
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*From:* therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] *On Behalf Of *Graham Mullan *Sent:* Thursday, 16 January 2014 3:49 a.m. *To:* therion@speleo.sk *Subject:* [Therion] Compatibility with Survex
In the latest project in which I am involved, I am having to import data from Survex (actually from Compass via Survex but that's another story!). This requires importing survex 3d files. The problem that I have is that .3d files generated in the most recent iterations of Survex cannot be read by Therion. I had the same problem some years back & eventually they caught up with each other, but it seems that the Survex format has changed too much once again.
Can this be rectified, please 'cos it's a pain in the bum.
Graham
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+++ Stacho Mudrak [2014-01-22 23:02 +0100]:
I have upgraded survex img parser in 5.3.13 version released few minutes ago. No other important changes have been made.
Thanks for including nearly all the non debian-specific patches upstream Stacho. Is there any particualar reason you didn't include the 'wrong-size tabs' whitespace patch? That seems like an uncontroversial upstream fix. Anyway, it was a gloriously simple update - uscan, and quilt-delete the patches that are now upstream. I'll upload a 5.3.13 soon assuming it builds/tests OK. Wookey -- Principal hats: Linaro, Emdebian, Wookware, Balloonboard, ARM http://wookware.org/
Is there any particualar reason you didn't include the 'wrong-size tabs' whitespace patch? That seems like an uncontroversial upstream fix.
To be honest, not enough time to read the "patch" manpage. See https://xkcd.com/1168/ :) I modified files manually in mc, I would like to clean the code later, together with compiler warnings, there are still a lot of them. Thanks, S.
+++ Wookey [2014-01-23 02:50 +0000]:
+++ Stacho Mudrak [2014-01-22 23:02 +0100]:
I have upgraded survex img parser in 5.3.13 version released few minutes ago. No other important changes have been made.
Thanks for including nearly all the non debian-specific patches upstream Stacho.
Is there any particualar reason you didn't include the 'wrong-size tabs' whitespace patch? That seems like an uncontroversial upstream fix.
Anyway, it was a gloriously simple update - uscan, and quilt-delete the patches that are now upstream. I'll upload a 5.3.13 soon assuming it builds/tests OK.
OK. Therion 5.3.13 is now in Debian unstable. With the serious 'no background images' bug finally fixed. As ever feedback is welcome if there are remaining issues.. Hopefully this will be a good release to end up in the next stable release (it would be good to get the wx 3.0 transition done too for that, but currently loch hangs. Olly would be very happy if anyone did some work on looking into that, I'm sure. There is a patch to let it build in the package, but not applied: http://sources.debian.net/src/therion/5.3.13-1/debian/patches/wx3.0-compat.p...). Wookey -- Principal hats: Linaro, Emdebian, Wookware, Balloonboard, ARM http://wookware.org/
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