And this is from Samples: cave-list.thconfig: !PROCESS #!TITLE 4 Listing caves #! #! When surveying caves in some large area, you often need to generate #! an up to date list of all caves in that area. In therion dataset, "cave" #! can be defined in several ways, depending on the level of cave survey. #! #! If you have just surveyed entrance station (e.g. using GPS or standard #! surveying methods), all you need to do is to assign <code>entrance</code> #! flag using source centerline fix cave-1 123456 789101112 1234 fix cave-2 123333 789101122 1256 #!CODE station cave-1 "Unsurveyed cave" entrance #!ENDCODE #! #! If there is some explored passage behind this entrance, but you did not #! survey it properly, you should add also <code>continuation</code> flag #! and <code>explored</code> flag followed by explored length. Explored but #! unsurveyed passage lengths are also part of summary statistics. #! #!CODE station cave-2 "Unsurveyed but explored" entrance \ continuation explored 80m #!ENDCODE endcenterline #! #! If you have properly surveyed some cave, its data are usually in some #! <code>survey</code> structure. Survey becomes a cave, if it has main entrance #! station specified using <code>-entrance</code> option. Example: #! #!CODE survey small_cave -title "Tunnel cave" -entrance 0 #!ENDCODE centerline fix 0 123488 78910888 1244 data normal from to compass clino tape 0 1 100 -10 10 1 2 200 -20 15 station 0 "Main entrance" entrance station 2 "Second entrance" entrance endcenterline endsurvey survey xx endsurvey endsource #! #! If survey contains survey data, but it has no main entrance specified, it #! is not considered as a cave, just as data organization unit and thus not #! present in the cave list. Only surveys containing some caves (i.e. entrance #! stations or surveys with main entrance defined) are present in the final #! cave list table. #! #! After caves in your data have been properly defined, you can generate #! table using #!CODE export cave-list -o caves.html #!ENDCODE #! #! Resulting table looks like this #!HTML caves.html #!CLEAN caves.html And result Title Length Depth Explored Altitude Tunnel cave 25 7   1244.0 Unsurveyed cave       1234.0 Unsurveyed but explored     80 1256.0 So there is something I don't understand. Sorry Pavol. m.s. On Jan 09, 2017, at 04:13 PM, Martin Sluka via Therion <therion@speleo.sk> wrote: It is another "entrance"  "station 0 entrance" means, that this station is reference point from which is altitude calculated and centerline flipped for extended elevation. For list of caves it is "entrance 0" in survey section. Or should be. m. On Jan 09, 2017, at 04:03 PM, Pavel Herich via Therion <therion@speleo.sk> wrote: "not enough data readings" - because it´s written under command data normal from to ... Proper way to use it is following: survey -title "Cave name" ... centerline station 0 "Cave name" entrance ... data normal from to compass clino ... ... endcenterline ensurvey Then things works well. Pavel Dňa 2017-01-09 15:52 Andrew Atkinson via Therion napísal(a): The Therion book states it has to be in survey, I tried entrance 0 in centreline, then you get an error, not enough data readings. Yes I know what it is meant to do, but it is not working, I will post examples when I am back in the UK, not easily done from rural Myanmar.... Andrew On 9 Jan 2017 20:57, "Pavel Herich via Therion" <therion@speleo.sk> wrote: Definition of entrance has to be inside centerline. Then "export cave-list -location on -o cave.html" gives you coordinates and lenght and depth of your surveys compiled, conected with defined entrances. If you have a index.th [1], which connects all your caves (every cave has to be at least in one or more surveys; and more surveys connected under one general cave survey), then you have list of all caves with one or more defined entrances. Pavel Dňa 2017-01-09 15:14 Andrew Atkinson via Therion napísal(a): Yes, that is what I said, and it gives an error Andrew On 9 Jan 2017 19:04, "Martin Sluka via Therion" <therion@speleo.sk> wrote: Definition of entrance is part of survey-endsurvey m.s. On Jan 09, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Andrew Atkinson via Therion <therion@speleo.sk> wrote: Page 17 of the Therion hook states that station <station name> Under the context survey should be used as the entrance identifier for a cave to be used in cave-list export. However, this gives an error unknown command -- entrance Now I can sort of get round it using Station 0 "" entrance in the centerline, but this does not define a cave so the list is a bit weird. Am I missing something? 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hi all, my th file.. survey bensova -title "Bensova" input bensova.th2 map ben scrap1 endmap centreline cs jtsk fix 1 378752.84 1201718.558 1383.807 station 1 "Bensova j." entrance units clino compass deg #calibrate tape 0 0.1 date 1971 data normal from to compass clino length #up down right left 1 2 100.2 -19.2 18.59 2 3 96.5 2.5 5.7 3 4 123.3 3.5 2.94 4 5 201.2 14.2 11.59 5 6 111.5 -31.3 9.48 6 7 59.5 7.5 6.22 7 8 89.5 -17 12.95 8 9 104.2 3 7.56 9 10 154 34.3 7.4 endcentreline endsurvey S pozdravom Ing. Michal Danko On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Andrew Atkinson via Therion < therion@speleo.sk> wrote:

As I said in my first email, I have used that, however, the thbook also states that entrance 0 Should work in survey, to define a cave in the cave-list assumably for multi entrance systems then station 0 "" entrance can be used for other entrances. The original email I sent gave your solution, but the thbook command as stated in my original email does not work.

Andrew

On 9 Jan 2017 21:32, "Pavel Herich via Therion" <therion@speleo.sk> wrote:

...

"not enough data readings" - because it´s written under command data normal from to ... Proper way to use it is following:

survey -title "Cave name" ... centerline station 0 "Cave name" entrance ... data normal from to compass clino ... ... endcenterline ensurvey

Then things works well. Pavel

Dňa 2017-01-09 15:52 Andrew Atkinson via Therion napísal(a):

...

The Therion book states it has to be in survey, I tried entrance 0 in centreline, then you get an error, not enough data readings.

Yes I know what it is meant to do, but it is not working, I will post examples when I am back in the UK, not easily done from rural Myanmar....

Andrew

On 9 Jan 2017 20:57, "Pavel Herich via Therion" <therion@speleo.sk> wrote:

Definition of entrance has to be inside centerline.

...

Then "export cave-list -location on -o cave.html" gives you coordinates and lenght and depth of your surveys compiled, conected with defined entrances. If you have a index.th [1], which connects all your caves (every cave has to be at least in one or more surveys; and more surveys connected under one general cave survey), then you have list of all caves with one or more defined entrances. Pavel

Dňa 2017-01-09 15:14 Andrew Atkinson via Therion napísal(a):

Yes, that is what I said, and it gives an error

Andrew

On 9 Jan 2017 19:04, "Martin Sluka via Therion" <therion@speleo.sk> wrote:

Definition of entrance is part of survey-endsurvey

m.s.

On Jan 09, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Andrew Atkinson via Therion <therion@speleo.sk> wrote:

Page 17 of the Therion hook states that station <station name> Under the context survey should be used as the entrance identifier for a cave to be used in cave-list export.

However, this gives an error unknown command -- entrance

Now I can sort of get round it using Station 0 "" entrance in the centerline, but this does not define a cave so the list is a bit weird. Am I missing something?

V 5.3.16 on windows 10

Andrew

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