Hi Bill Thanks for sharing that code. I've added it to the wiki here https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/metapost#point_-_artificial_electric_light Can you supply a screen grab of the symbol (with a white background), that I can include in the wiki page? (I should try it out myself, but I am taking a very minimal input approach here). There is a partial explanation of u: here https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/metapost#symbol_sizing but I will admit to not knowing if it relates directly to U: Are u: and U: the same? I suspect not. Feel free any metapost knowledgeables who knows better... If you supply your symbols, either direct to me, or via the forum, I'll add them in due course. The https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/metapos page really needs some rational structure imposed on it and its table of contents, so I might work on that as well. Posting direct to the forum will ensure people get the benefit of your work sooner! Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> On Behalf Of Bill Gee Sent: Friday, 17 May 2019 06:51 To: therion@speleo.sk Subject: Re: [Therion] Setting scale on custom symbol Hi Bruce and Martin - Thanks for the tips. I have figured out how to make it work. The new code looks like this: # This code defines an artificial electric light. Used in tourist sections of a cave. def p_u_electriclight (expr pos,theta,sc,al) = U:=(0.3u, 0.3u); % Reduce size of the symbol. The default size is too big. interim defaultscale:=0.4sc; T:=identity aligned al rotated theta scaled defaultscale shifted pos; pickup PenC; thdraw fullcircle scaled 0.5u shifted (0.0u, 0.7u); thdraw (-0.5u, -0.6u) -- (-0.5u, 0.0u); thdraw (-0.5u, 0.0u) .. (-0.35u, 0.55u) .. (0.0u, 0.7u); thdraw (0.0u, 0.7u) .. (0.35u, 0.55u) .. (0.5u, 0.0u); thdraw (0.5u,0.0u) -- (0.5u, -0.6u); thdraw (-0.7u, -0.6u) -- (0.7u, -0.6u); enddef; I fiddled with the constant 0.4 to find a value that produces symbols about the size I wanted. A nice thing about this code is that it still respects the "-size xxx" parameters. What does the line "U:=(0.3u, 0.3u);" do? As far as I can tell, it has no effect at all. MetaPost is rather puzzling by having no explicit multiplication operator. The expression "0.4sc" does multiplication, but without any visible operator. The same happens for all the expressions involving "u". Back when I was studying computer science, that would have produced much vituperation from the professors! I think this code is now suitable for posting on the Wiki. I have several other custom symbols that might be useful to others: Pavement Boardwalk Tiled floor (all as area fills) Display case Boxwork Bear bed Pendant Stromatolite (These are points) Who should I send the code to for review and posting? -- Bill Gee