Hi I am having a little bit of difficulty with the various different helps on co-ordinate systems. I am building an area survey map from data from various different sources, so having to 'adapt' it, but really do not want to have to convert it all. It would be nice to have one of the outputs as .kml for google earth and the like. Lots of the data is in Survex, with Local OSGB 6 figure grid references. These I have been importing eg import Great_Swallet.3d -surveys use -filter great_swallet -cs EPSG:27700 -calibrate [0 0 0 299912 99991 0] #Should be -calibrate [0 0 0 300000 100000 0] (goodness knows why the calibrate is not right, the bodge is to align it on goodle earth, probably my ignorance) As most of the new data is in Pockettopo imported, into therion, is attached to the survex data this has worked well. One cave entrance has been done in therion direct but I just dealt with that by doing the calibrate manually I have now been sent lots of data with lots (60 fix #ed points or more) of cave entrances, all in therion with local 6 figure grid references. I can set the coordinate system to EPSG:27700 by adding it within the centreline/endcentre, but that puts the cave in the Atlantic somewhere. So using centreline -cs EPSG:27700 -calibrate [0 0 0 299912 99991 0] gives the error not enough option arguments -- -calibrate -- must be 2 Which is fair enough as calibrate is already used in the centreline for correcting a zero error. Not to be easily put off I tried it the other way round, remove the calibrate from the centreline and use cs EPSG:27700 in the config files to get therion to output in these coordinates, however although I can get the caves relatively next to each other, the kml puts them in the Atlantic again and cs EPSG:27700 -calibrate [0 0 0 299912 99991 0] gives error output coordinate system specification requires single parameter and cs EPSG:27700 calibrate [0 0 0 299912 99991 0] gives error unknown configuration command -- calibrate Have I missed something or do I need to go through and add 300000 and 100000 to all the fixed points. If this is so, could we have a calibratecs to use with the cs command to overcome localised coordinates on a national grid, the UK cannot be the only country with this problem, and it must be easier to work mainly in the more localised coordinates and calibrate it on output hope this all makes sense, Andrew