Bertrand The splay shots are there (and they are the default setting). Right-click in the black area in Loch, choose scene, choose Centreline, then tick splay. You will see the splay shots. If you use the 3d output format, and you have survex installed, you will see the splay shots by default in the Aven viewer. Bruce _____ From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Bertrand HAUSER Sent: Sunday, 8 January 2012 6:43 a.m. To: List for Therion users Subject: [Therion] Using "-enable splay-shots" for 3D export. Hi, Question of a newbie... I have seen in the last changelog for therion 5.3.9 : "+ added option -enable/disable splay-shots to 3d model export" So I use this command line in my thconfig : export model -format loch -enable splay-shots -o my3d.lox The compilation is OK, but there is no splay-shots when I open my file in Loch. Beside the very simple survey and in attachment the lox file. Where is my error ? Thanks, Bertrand (sorry for my english) survey topo20120106\ -title "Topo du vendredi 06 janvier 2012" centerline date 2012.01.06 units length left right up down metres units compass clino degrees data normal from to length compass clino 1 2 1.41 230.60 -3.40 2 3 1.91 151.89 -0.38 3 4 3.29 188.61 0.93 4 5 3.48 223.96 16.62 # splay shots flags splay 2 - 0.56 99.40 22.02 2 - 2.60 114.09 71.97 2 - 0.54 271.19 14.69 3 - 1.06 96.40 3.75 3 - 2.64 92.30 70.33 3 - 0.45 289.00 15.16 3 - 0.58 302.47 -46.16 4 - 1.02 290.35 30.75 4 - 2.51 265.93 70.58 4 - 0.27 109.10 47.93 4 - 0.55 32.65 -74.46 5 - 1.45 354.70 85.75 5 - 0.28 325.21 2.11 5 - 1.06 353.52 -83.31 5 - 1.03 134.02 31.59 endcenterline endsurvey