OK. I'm updating the Debian (anfd thus ubuntu) Therion package to the currently released 5.3. I've decided that including a copy of the wiki docs is probably unecessary from now on, but can put them back in if enough people find it useful (expedition caving with limited net access seems to be the main plausible reason). I'm getting a build problem in loch: c++ -o -D_GNU_SOURCE -DLOCH -DLXLINUX -I/usr/lib/wx/include/gtk2-unicode-release-2.6 -I/usr/include/wx-2.6 -DGTK_NO_CHECK_CASTS -D__WXGTK__ -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGE_FILES -DNO_GCC_PRAGMA -Wno-deprecated -fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/vtk-5.4 -O2 -o lxAboutDlg.o lxAboutDlg.cxx lxAboutDlg.cxx: In constructor ‘lxAboutDlg::lxAboutDlg(wxWindow*)’: lxAboutDlg.cxx:80: error: ‘LTHVERSION’ was not declared in this scope The code says: wxString lxVer; lxVer = _T("Version: "); lxVer += _T(THVERSION); So can someone explain where the 'LTHVERSION' being complained about comes from? The 'THVERSION' in the code _is_ declared. Is this something to do with the _T function/macro? Wookey -- Principal hats: iEndian - Balloonboard - Toby Churchill - Emdebian http://wookware.org/